Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by dja2k, Dec 15, 2005.
Ok then.. LOL
Page, it's always interesting to read your replies, and I think we should all be more understanding and tolerant in this world which is, alas, definitely moving in the wrong direction again...
I feel respect to your ascetic setups. Why not the latest EMET 5.0 in this setup?
I recently put in a new Mobo (G3240 Pentium dual core with SSD). After re-install I checked whether everything worked correctly and was surprised by the responsiveness. IE11 started in less 0.3 secs for instance. When adding security settings back on again I noticed that EMET 5 delayed IE startup (1.3 to 1.5 secs) and delayed Chrome even more (up to 2 secs). I tried HMPA 3 (which delayed 1.9 to 2.3 secs extra), VI Robot (added 1.1-1.3 secs) and MBAE (added 0.8-1.0 seconds). Then I started tweaking 5.0 until I had the protection left of 4.1 (delayed 0.5 secs), so I tried 4.1. update 1 and this only delayed 0.2 secs.
Enabled Hibernation to complete performance optimization and acquire benefit of cached AV security
Software Mitigations for web sited in IE favourites
IE11 no plug-ins, hardened through GPO, protected by EMET 4.1 and Panda free 2015, only takes 0.4 to 0.5 seconds to launch IE (feels like a blink)
Software Mitigations for other browsing (Chrome)
For untrusted browsing I use Chrome in XP-Mode with Sandboxie Free as extra layer to protect virtualised OS (not allowing access to data partitions in Virtual PC and blocking access to data disks with SBIE restrictions).
Kees, what is your startup time for Chrome run in VirtualPC under SBIE?
Without Hibernation first cold launch is 40 seconds (including delay of Sandboxie Free), with hibernation of Windows 7 (host OS) and Virtual XP (guest OS) less than two seconds (based on windows clock, AppTimer does not see virtualised + sandboxed Chrome). Keeping everything hybernated seems to by-pass this 5 second dely. SBIE control is visible in system tray (!).
Thnx Kees. Less than 2 seconds would be similar to running Chrome under SBIE on real (host) system.
Windows XP Home SP3 (all updates) Admin account behind a router
1 Emsisoft Anti-Malware
2 Google Chrome starting limited with PsExec and plugins clicktoplay (μblock: Easylist, EasyPrivacy, Peter Lowe’s Ad server list, Dan Pollock’s hosts file, hpHosts - Ad and Tracking servers only, MVPS HOSTS)
4 Yandex DNS
5 SpywareBlaster (Custom blocking list)
6 No Java installed
Sorry, timed it correctly
When Host hibernates, first Virtual PC launch of hibernated XP Mode = 3 secs, consequetive launches less than 2 secs. SSD drive read speed is +/- 425 MB, so 512MB RAM hibernated XP should take a bit more than a second load time. I informed Invincea about this Free delay bypass, they have not responded yet.
Kees, the five seconds screen that you get in the free version, starts taking place after 30 days. Before 30 days, there is no delay or nag screen.
Yes you told me, therefore I put system date a year ahead and it only stopped once. Guest is put in hibernation when you exit XP-mode, when I put host also in hybernation, the delay did not happen at re-launch nor between to hibernation sessions of host. May be I missed something (put date back again). Invincea emailed me that they would check it.
Good Evening! Webroot Security Plus...AppGuard...Voodoo Shield...Homeland Security MK 20...Sure is Funky! Sincerely...Securon
Hello all! Simple and effective as usual
Windows 7 Home Premium -PGS, run as basic user, default deny user space & External Drive
-UAC at Max
-EMET v5 default recommended settings
-Google Chrome with ublock plugin
Sandboxie and NOD32
Been running AVG free and online armore firewall. to be hobest im quite surprised by AVG. last time i used it was back in 06 and it was terrible. feels light on my system and thrpugh personal testing the detection rates are quite good as well.
KIS on one computer and AVG IS on the other. No problems so far
Desktop setup (Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bits)
- Hardening: WFW (also outbound), UAC deny elevation of unsigned, SRP for basic users
- Spyshelter free: allowing Microsoft, added blockrules for office/IE/WMP/SumatraPDF
- Chrome for surfing as anonymous user with Sandboxie free in virtual XP-Mode
- Windows Image Backup and SyncBackFree Data to NAS (monthly backup's)
Good Evening! Eset S.S.8 and Appguard...A Deadly Effective...1-2 Punch! Sincerely...Securon
emsisoft internet security and hitmanpro
Ron you change AV's like I change underwear. What do you seek?
Good Evening! Excellent Combo...My Foothills Friend! Sincerely...Securon
Good Evening! Change is Never Ending...It Seeks the Seeker! Sincerely...Securon
thank you securon
My PC#1 security setup
Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
UAC at max
Windows updates automatic
windows restore off
Paragon and Macrium images of sys partition with BCDs
Eaz-Fix 9.1 (Rx clone with imaging) snapshotie time machine
HIPS - Safe
FW - Custom
Sandbox - FV, all browsers and internet apps sandboxed as Partially Limited
Qihoo 360 IS
Though this setup is a bit overkill it seems light on my PC.