What is the difference between Online Armor and COMODO?

Discussion in 'other firewalls' started by truthseeker, Feb 24, 2008.

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  1. truthseeker

    truthseeker Former Poster

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    It seems people on this forum mostly use Online Armor or COMODO.

    I myself am using COMODO, but have never tried Online Armor.

    What are the main differences between the 2?
     
  2. Livio

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    I'd say lightness

    OA is way lighter than Comodo,
    and is as good if not better according to the tests
     
  3. Fuzzfas

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    I would say that OA is easier to use. It will even auto-open the ports for you once you give permission to an application to connect to internet. Although i prefer to configure such things myself.

    Also the GUI is more compact, so you can find what you look for easier.

    On the other hand, Comodo IMHO eats less CPU time although i feel it a bit heavier on the system, and provides all features to the free version, while OA has some nifty features available only to the paid version. Still, for a home user, OA Free can be of great help. I think OA is also suitable for HIPS novices. The pop up windows although not as pretty as in Comodo, are less and really try to explain things very thoroughly to give a newbie user an idea of what he is about to decide on.

    I 'd say try them both and see which is best for you. One things is for sure, they are currently IMHO the 2 stars of the firewall scene , cause no competitor gives such powerful free versions. And if you do like OA more, i think $40for a firewall-HIPS combo with the added features given in the paid version, isn't an irrational price to pay.
     
  4. Coolio10

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    Depends how you look at it.

    Comodo uses quiet a lot less memory than online armor but online armor is lighter performance wise.

    This chart might help a bit.

    http://wiki.castlecops.com/HIPS/IDP_programs/services

    As you can see according to the graph online armor is a bit more than a firewall, it is also a suite with web filter and anti-phishing.

    And comodo has a couple more features such as password protection, heuristics, more protection (eg. low level disk access)

    The OA alerts are dull compared to comodo's colour coded alerts but online armour's are less confusing even though their size can be intimidating to a ZA user with tiny alerts :D.

    Online armour is deffinitely easier while comodo has many options and configuration choices for the user who likes to mix it up.
    The new anti-leak mode in comodo is very close to the simplicity of online armor but sacrifices some protection such as keylogging.
     
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  5. truthseeker

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    Does OA pass the infamous and controversial PC Flank Leak Test?

    And I read that OA does not Block low level disk access, yet COMODO does. What exatly is Block low level disk access?
     
  6. Dieselman

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    I got OA and Comodo to pass the PC Flank test. The GRC leak test and the System Shutdown Simulator. Most tests fail due to user error.
     
  7. the Tester

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    "Does OA pass the infamous and controversial PC Flank Leak Test?"

    I don't know about that test.I don't trust it,but both pass the Shields Up test.

    OA free is easier to use and the GUI is more compact.
    Both are excellent firewalls though.
     
  8. subset

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    A program needs low level disk access for example to modify the Master Boot Record (MBR).
    Apps like Killdisk are able to destroy the MBR.
    And some apps can block such attempts, like Comode, System Safety Monitor, EQSecure etc.

    Cheers
     
  9. gud4u

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    The user interface and component layout are much more intuitive than Comodo.

    I found better program-compatability for a few apps.

    Quite by accident, I discovered that OA has a nice functioning integrity check and recovery feature. While overclocking with OA online, I pushed the system a bit too far. Windows locked up, and on re-boot OA automatically re-installed itself. Nice feature.

    I went through several Comodo beta versions, RC and 'final' Comodo release. I never doubted the security offered by Comodo, but it never reached a valid 'final release' state in my opinion. Great fun to tinker with - but I lost patience.

    OA is simply ready for prime time, offers excellent protection, presents a user interface that anyone can understand and user-support is great.
     
  10. Dieselman

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    I over clock all the time. That doesn't affect the install of any program. Why would OA have to reinstall itself after your pc locked up? Doesn't make sense to me. I like how Comodo and Zone Alarm have icons next to each program. It makes it easier to find things when you have around 200 programs installed like I do. Very colorful also. Online Armor lists everything alphabetically but everything is the same color so you can easily skip right over something when trying to edit a rule or function.
     
  11. truthseeker

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    why doesnt OA stop low level disk access like comodo does?
     
  12. truthseeker

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    i just noticed on their website that OA is not suitable for Vista, so i cant try it anyway :p

    Minimum requirements: Online Armor currently runs on Windows NT/2000/XP. This program is not suitable for Windows Vista.
     
  13. MikeNash

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    That's not going to be true for that much longer, I hope :)
     
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    Don't know.

    But what I do know is: if someone runs Comodo and doesn't know what low level disk access means, he will likely allow it for Killdisk virus and deny it for his backup program. :D

    Cheers
     
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  15. truthseeker

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    That could be months and months away :p
     
  16. MikeNash

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    We already have OA running on Vista already on our internal test machines. Not everything is operating yet - but we're not as far away as you might think :)
     
  17. truthseeker

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    MikeNash, will the new Vista version have low level disk access like COMODO does?
     
  18. MikeNash

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    Our immediate target is to get something working on Vista at all.
     
  19. Peter2150

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    Relative to low level disk access currently OA wouldn't seem to block it but the reality is different.

    I'll compare with SSM, which I assume handles it similiar to Comodo.

    Lets assume, I go to a nefarious website and it foists Killdisk on me unannounced. But OA, and SSM pop up and say xzy(or whatever it's called) is trying to run. You don't know better so you allow it. OA lets it run, no block of disk access, and it's bye bye. SSM/Comodo give a pop up saying XYZ wants low level disk access. Here's the catch. Mr. Mo says, hmm, my back up program wanted disk access, so it must be okay, and he allows it. Bye BYe. You have to know the right answer.

    BUT. In OA, I run my browser with Run Safer which lowers it's rights. Now when I get asked about xyz, and allow it, no further pop up, and also no damage. XYZ aka Killdisk can't do it's thing.

    Bottom line is if you run your internet looking apps with Run Safer, you don't need to know the answer to a pop up. You are protected.

    Now sure if you download something from a crack site..............
     
  20. Lundholm

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    If you seek the truth, you shouldn't make any fast assumptions.

    Maybe these people are just very loud?

    Maybe these products are just the most buggy? They are frequently recommended just because they are free. You could see all the posts as a reason to stay away from them. ;)
     
  21. Carver

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    Not in this case, OA and Comodo are Both top Firewalls. Being free is just frosting on the cake.
     
  22. truthseeker

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    What is Run Safer?
     
  23. truthseeker

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    Maybe.

    Who really knows? <--- rhetorical question :)
     
  24. MikeNash

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    Online Armor's run-safer system helps protect against this by automatically "stepping down" the rights that your web-browser or any other program you run has to a "limited" user.

    http://tallemu.com/webhelp/RunSafer.htm
     
  25. truthseeker

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    Sounds good.

    I cannot wait for OA to be Vista ready so I can try it out.
     
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