Jooskie posted back in Nov2003 WG4 will have an update system and more options, quicklaunch from the systray etc 1-day user of WormGuard demo, and using registered TDS3 & Port Explorer for longer time. also registered Process Guard (currently uninstalled). WG seemed to install aok, and I read thru most of the help file. I tested it this morning to make sure is was "active." so far, no WG_popups. I guess if my box is secure, WG will never alert, so in one sense it's a little like the emperor's new clothes. I never see WG, but DCS tells me it is there checking every file that runs. (if I understand info in help). I'm also a tad lost in the versions. it looked like DCS recently published a wish list for WG4, but then the about on the WG demo I have says WG 4.0. I do not find it in systray. install put a copy on desktop and once started, it is somewhere very deep in w2k as it does not show up as a running process, service or autostart, but when I open the desktop icon, and test, it assures me that it is running. if WG is designed as it appears here as "install it and forget it," what's the deal with options and systray, and yadi yadi yadah. am I correct that WG leaves no visible footprint with usual tools? and there's no database to update, right? what is the need for "options" if it runs so deep? if I understand WG's purpose it is to stop a new worm that is not yet in av databases, right? so I should just sit back and relax and register it & forget it until that time I get a WG_popup. appreciate any insights, clarifications and corrections to my understand. thanks!