programs, I'm back to my ancient Raxco First Defense ISR, 1.10.237. I know, way out of date but I see no need to update. This version, even a couple of years or more old, will do for what I need. I had it sitting on my second HD, and rattled around for days trying to figure out a way to play with trial software without clogging up my registry, etc and it was there all the time. Wonderful program. I guess there's no real point to this post.