Welcome to New Zealand. Now hand over your password or pay $5,000

Welcome to New Zealand. Now hand over your password or pay $5,000
October 1, 2018
https://www.fastcompany.com/90244660/welcome-to-new-zealand-now-hand-over-your-password-or-pay-5000

 

Bump I wonder how many other countries will follow suit ? I guess the only way around this is to upload a back up copy of your data to a server on the internet and delete the data on your device before going thru customs.

 

Simple... Don't take any phones with questionable content. It's not rocket science.

 

These laws have always existed in most countries, however the penalties haven’t been clear, enforced, tested or needed. Usually if you don’t hand over access to your device, it will be confiscated and handed over to the techs. You get it back after the trial, many months or in pieces.

This is mainly for child exploitation and terrorism. If you haven’t done anything wrong or stupid, you have nothing to worry about.

This is a classic beat up for media sensationalizing, time to ignore this subject.

 

Does anyone still believes in that?

 

Based on my personal experience, this is not a belief but reality.

I'm not going to waste my time, or other forum members, to convince you.

 

And, if for some reason you must have access to your super secret phone that does contain "questionable content" then just post it to yourself c/o your hotel, and use a throwaway to enter the country with.

 

There is something wrong with you people...

 

"customs officials would need to have a reasonable suspicion of wrongdoing before performing the digital strip search, and customs officials won’t be searching through your cloud accounts, only the files on your phone."

They won't just check anyone.

 

What? You are silly.

What will happen is, there will be a second immigration entry card that you have to fill out with all of your passwords. Then when you go through customs, each passenger will sit down with a customs officer and they will log into all of your accounts and do an assessment on the spot. After reading through all your emails from the past decade, Facebook posts, who you follow on Twitter, look at your porn history and all those great pictures you took of your genitalia, or get bored, they will then let you complete your entry into the country.

If you enter the wrong details you will be fined 5K for each wrong entry. This also includes each account you don’t have, which you will then have to create. There is no age limit so infants to the elderly will also be required to follow this.

The customs line will slow from 1000’s per hour to a dozen or so, but more customs officers can be put on due to more fines, which will also require more interview rooms with computer terminals.

The police and security agencies will then have to enter all the details from the cards into a data base, checking that no one has changed their passwords since leaving the airport, and constantly monitor the accounts of all those who have entered the country instead of investigating referred criminal activity or conducting investigations.

 

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Just delete all your social media apps before you enter the country. Tell them you don't have any account.

After entering the country go to internet cafes to surf your social media

 

Well ...

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Border agents can demand access to your digital device — here's what to say if it happens to you

 

That's a little harsh...

 

It is a requirement that if someone in uniform approaches you they have to identify who they are, why they are talking to you, and state what authority they have to issue any request. If not, ask to speak to their supervisor.

Power is not authority. Of course there is always the ‘attitude test’ which as all LE are human and are individuals with different world views, have different tolerances and interpretation of the law, will react differently. I personally let many people off from different offences because there was no intent; and they were honest and polite. All LE do this.

But if you act like a ****, you will be treated that way. Most will have a voice recorder running, and many now have body cams. So if they approach you and say they are responding to a complaint, or based on reasonable suspicion, and you are rude and obstructive, you will be detained; which they have the authority to do. If you complain, the voice recorder and body cam will work against you.

Customs officers have more power than police in the customs area, so you have to be careful if you decide to be difficult. The article above is not a good guide as you can be ‘turned around’ as it is called, where you are denied entry and sent to the transit lounge to find a way back home or worse, detained until you are escorted on to a plane home; with no recourse. In developing countries very bad things can also happen.

Most likely your device will be confiscated, the police called and s@#t getting real, real quickly. Airports are all very highly strung these days with zero tolerance for anything that even unsettles other passengers.

First of all if you have done nothing wrong there is nothing to worry about. It is unlikely that passwords are written down during access and less that they are recorded, but even then you can change them afterwards. If you are chosen out of the hundreds of passengers, there will be a very good reason from good intel, profiling, previous countries you have visited or when and where you purchased your ticket. You can ask why, which may or not be given, but as all the areas are generally being videoed with good microphones in the roof, it works against the officer if they can’t justify their actions.

Also, most legislation is intertwined, so you need suspicion of specific offences from other legislation to apply this legislated search, and can only proceed if the elements for those offences are satisfied, so it is not random for no reason.

From my experience in aviation it is all about drugs, child exploitation and terrorism. If you are involved in these, good luck with that.

 

I know how that works. Many police officers are searching young adults, because they are not so aware of their legal rights, are easier target than middle-age criminal (actual criminal convinced for violent wrongdoings) to intimidate. Reasonable suspicion can mean somebody is riding a bike in winter, because no one is riding a bike in winter, right?

 

Waste of time, but I hope others read this and get something out of it...Reasonable suspicion of committing an offence.

There is no such thing as 'reasonable suspicion' legally, or an offence for riding a bike in winter. Although it would suggest reasonable suspicion of theft.

Are you sure none of these are legal, or are followed up by convictions? Paranoid generalizations...

 

Can they inforce that if you're in an international airport? I thought these airports are somehow not their territory or whatever. (that film with tom hanks...)

 

No idea where you got that idea, or that the Tom Hanks film was about anarchy.

Do a legal search on your country, they are usually called aviation something act, or similar. There are federal offences and state offences; they all apply at an airport.

 

This is an invasion of privacy. My most likely scenario would be to show up with a reset phone at the airport. I am sorry.

 

Back in the day, US cellphones were CDMA-only, and didn't work elsewhere. So I got in the habit of buying cheap phones when traveling.

That still seems a great plan, albeit for different reasons

 

Sorry for a rude and off topic post but…

You sound like a group that still lives with your parents and have never left your home town.

When I travel I always take a laptop for emails, photo and video editing, to watch movies, Skype and on occasions, blogs for personal record or followers; amongst many other things. My fellow travelers have usually been the same.

These laws have existed in the dozens of countries, on the numerous continents I have visited, including the one I return to every time. Clearing all the data on every device or posting phones to the next hotel is just fanciful and a good way to ruin a holiday.

 

Perhaps you should get out out a little more and broaden your range of friends.
Not everyone falls into a category you approve of.
You have been less than tolerant of others opinions and suggestions - are you a cop

 

Damn, you have blown my cover. That question always has to be answered truthfully.

I will have to change my identity again on here.

Thanks for that...