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  1. mood

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    What features does Waterfox currently have?

    • Compiled with Clang+LLVM on Linux
    • Disabled Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)
    • Disabled Web Runtime (deprecated as of 2015)
    • Removed Pocket
    • Removed Telemetry
    • Removed data collection
    • Removed startup profiling
    • Allow running of all 64-Bit NPAPI plugins
    • Allow running of unsigned extensions
    • Removal of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page
    • Addition of Duplicate Tab option (toggle with browser.tabs.duplicateTab, thanks to PandaCodex)
    • Locale selector in about:preferences > General (further improved by PandaCodex)
    Waterfox is available for Windows, Linux and macOS
    Website / Github

    Current version: Waterfox v54.0.1 (July 14, 2017)
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    What’s new in Waterfox 54.0.0.1?
    • Disable building of pingsender executable
    • Give users choice to use Google’s Widevine CDM for HTML5 EME/DRM. Note: No proprietary binaries are included by default, they are optionally downloaded in Preferences > Content
    What’s new in Waterfox 54.0?
    • Updated to Firefox 54.0 (Release Notes)
    • Windows installer now lists Waterfox as publisher instead of Mozilla
    • Language request now also change when a different locale is selected
     
  2. NiteRanger

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    Just a question

    Come FF 57 all extensions will be using webextensions and legacy extensions will cease. Will these legacy extensions still exist in Mozilla web store and be updated and for how long?

    I understand WF will still support such legacy extensions. But where to get new updates once they don't exist in Mozilla web store? Will WF have its web store to host these legacy extensions with updates like Pale Moon?

    Thanks
     
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  3. NormanF

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    WF should support legacy extension as long it doesn't update to 57x.

    WF updates on a stable release cycle branch rather the FF rapid release cycle branch.
     
  4. NiteRanger

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    Sooner or later WF will have v57. But I think it might have different versions to cater to different users.

    The question is how WF is going to handle legacy extensions when it reaches v57? Like I mentioned will it have its own web store with legacy extensions and updates?
     
  5. IvoShoen

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    You can still get legacy extensions to work in 57 by going to about:config and changing "extensions.legacy.enabled" to true.
     
  6. NiteRanger

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    Thank you
     
  7. Krusty

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    Will that work for all legacy extensions?
     
  8. IvoShoen

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    It has for all of mine. When Firefox 57 updates itself you may have to repeat the tweak again.
     
  9. NiteRanger

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    But will Mozilla still maintain the legacy extensions in its web store? If not will WF starts it's on web store? Otherwise how to get new updates for the legacy extensions?
     
  10. The Red Moon

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    No doubt in the future that tweak will be removed.
     
  11. mood

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    I think that too. The tweak will not work forever :)
     
  12. mood

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    Waterfox v55.0.1 Released (August 15, 2017)
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    A release for Windows is not yet available, only a test build. More info: Test out Waterfox 55 here (Please read full instructions)
    What’s new in Waterfox 55.0.1?
    • Updated to Firefox 55.0.1 (Release Notes)
    • Full add-ons are now marked as such in the about:addons page, in preparation for keeping support.
    • Waterfox will CARRY ON SUPPORT for add-ons.
    • Waterfox now uses its own profile directory (as you may have been prompted when updating).
      • Location on macOS: ~/Library/Application Support/Waterfox
      • Location on Linux: ~/.waterfox/
      • Location on Windows: %APPDATA%\Waterfox
    • Backed out Bug 1351490 to keep NPAPI support.
    • Added Yahoo! partner URL.

    Good news for users of legacy-addons. Waterfox will get its own add-on store:
    Yes, see above :)
     
  13. NiteRanger

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    Thank you
     
  14. summerheat

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    Quite frankly, I fail to understand why someone would opt for a browser which is a one-man project. Even if 99% of its code is identical with the Firefox code, the 1% is critical because it's code which could possibly undermine the new FF security architecture (and webextensions are an important part of it). No, thanks - if it comes to the browser I would never rely on a hobby project.
     
  15. RockLobster

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    Perhaps they believe that one guy is more trustworthy than the people at Mozilla and without even knowing who he is I would bet my money on him too, because I have already evaluated the trustworthiness of the people at Mozilla.
     
  16. summerheat

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    So be it ;) You're apparently a risk lover: As mentioned elsewhere, Moonchild wrote that Palemoon's codebase consists of 15 million lines. Waterfox is certainly in the same ballpark. Properly maintaining only 1%, i.e. 150,000 code lines is a big task, indeed. Good luck! :thumb:
     
  17. TheWindBringeth

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    https://github.com/Aris-t2/ClassicThemeRestorer/issues/299#issuecomment-323614658
    https://github.com/MrAlex94/Waterfox/blob/master/browser/locales/searchplugins/yahoo.xml
    Code:
    <OpenSearchDescription xmlns="http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearch/1.1/" xmlns:moz="http://www.mozilla.org/2006/browser/search/">
    <ShortName>Yahoo</ShortName>
    <Description>Yahoo Search</Description>
    <InputEncoding>UTF-8</InputEncoding>
    <Image width="16" height="16">resource://search-plugins/images/yahoo.ico</Image>
    <Url type="text/html" template="https://api.couponroller.com/v1/hostedsearch">
    <Param name="keyword" value="{searchTerms}"/>
    <Param name="pid" value="252429"/>
    <Param name="subid" value="788"/>
    </Url>
    <Url type="application/x-suggestions+json" method="GET" template="https://search.yahoo.com/sugg/ff">
    <Param name="output" value="fxjson" />
    <Param name="appid" value="ffd" />
    <Param name="command" value="{searchTerms}" />
    </Url>
    </OpenSearchDescription>
    
    Dev response later in the thread:
    https://github.com/Aris-t2/ClassicThemeRestorer/issues/299#issuecomment-323621451
    Is using a third party via a search plugin labeled "Yahoo/Yahoo Search", and having the Yahoo icon, necessary? Maybe Yahoo legal department would have an opinion on that?
     
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  18. mood

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    Don't be silly now, you don't have to maintain the entire project just because you fork a modified version. As a developer you only need to be concerned with the code directories related to your modifications.
     
  21. summerheat

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    You call me silly but are unable to read. I wrote about maintaining 1% of the code base.
     
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    Waterfox v55.1.0
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  25. paulderdash

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    Just playing with Waterfox portable for the first time (now that it doesn't share a profile with Firefox).

    Question: Can I now just copy a profile from C:\Users\Paul\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles to a. C:\Users\Paul\AppData\Roaming\Waterfox\ or b. C:\Users\Paul\AppData\Roaming\Waterfox\Profiles (which one, a. or b.?) ... will that work?
     
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