Use of TDS

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  1. nicM

    nicM nico-nico

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    Hi, I'm trying TDs 3, but it's very complex, compared to others programs I'm running: is it for specialists, or can we use it as a "normal" software, as a firewall, for example? In fact, I'm just looking for an additional protection, in order to use MSN messenger (I dont't rely on this kind of stuff...), and my system is already well secured (firewall, antivirus, spybot, secure Windows configuration, Process Guard free, etc...). I was hesitating between TDS and Wormguard. Can someone advice me about that? o_O :doubt: o_O
     
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    Hello Nico, welcome to forums. :)

    First, yes, it *can* be complicated but also can be a *SET AND FORGET* apart from doing weekday updates [time zone Australia Mon to Fri excluding public holidays]

    It can be just used as a secondary backup scanner without the Real Time Monitoring of "Execution Protection" utilised. [This feature can ONLY be used for a full Registered version of TDS and full Auto updates also only for Reg users. You can go to site to get manual updates and simply overwrite the existing ones].

    Now, this is NOT a FW. It can be used to look at 'Sockets' etc and a whole array of advanced features. IP addresses, Resolve, Ping, Trace, Connect to, etc.

    It monitors all manner of system stuff into the bargain.

    VERY BASIC USE: Install trial version, do manual update and only use it as a back up Trojan Scanner.

    BASIC REGISTERED USE: Buy it, then it allows for Execution Protection in "real time". This means it *checks every .exe* that is opened. Say you even just open Notepad, it checks the Notepad.exe file BEFORE it will allow it to open. This is done in the blink of an eye. I do not even notice delay.

    All you have to do is maintain the updates [a simple CtrlU] it will download and update by itself, no input from you. It will monitor the startup of each and every .exe [TDS MUST be running, but you can minimise to SysTray ~option in there] and then do say, weekly Full System Scan and that's about it.

    ADVANCED USER: Well, this is way more than I can post here. READ the comprehensive HELP FILE. ;)

    SUPER ADVANCED USER: Waaaaaay beyond me.. and I don't need to know.
    :D

    All in all, it's just simply an extremely advanced Trojan Scanner. How you wish to utilise ALL of its arsenal of weapons/features is up to YOU. ;)

    I personally use it under the BASIC USER tag, as I have a lot of other stuff from DCS also which overlaps into TDS and much more. Remember, TDS has been around for a while and it's *STILL* a very powerful system of advanced scanning in MY personal opinion. PLUS you will get a FREE upgrade to TDS4, very few, if any, vendors offer that to a paid program in AV or AT fields.

    Cheers, TAS
     
  3. nicM

    nicM nico-nico

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    :) Thank you for your help; effectively, it can be used with the default settings (I just installed it this evening...), but maybe I'll make a try with Wormguard, wich seems to be a little bit more easy to run. In fact, I don't completely rely on Norton (NIS suite), wich let a few pests run without notycing anything. You know, a good idea would be to allow TDS to switch between "advanced" and "normal" mode, as Spybot do (even if Spybot's "advanced" mode seems tiny, compared to TDS...
    Whatever, I must be a kind of paranoïc, because no malware have infected wy system since Y've "securised" it... TdS will be the "cherry on the cake".. (euhh, does this french expression fit in english?)

    Thank you again,
     
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    Actually, those "modes" I outlined do not 'exist' in TDS... those were meant as an analogy, like you can make it as easy or more advanced in "using" the extras features.... sorry if I misled you on that... just my way of saying it can be as simple or advanced which will require a lot of reading the Help files to understand all of the extra features.

    LOL... yep, close enough. We also say it's like having whipped cream with a cherry on top. ;)

    Cheers, TAS
     
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    Hi there Nico-nico, and welcome to the forum!

    See Wayne's trhead about the easy uses of TDS:
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=12743
    And don't miss the posting on top "Important stickey threads" with FanJ's illustrated basic settings for instance and other informative threads.

    You can make use of TDS as siple or complicated as you wish.
    In TDS-2 there were settings for beginner-moderate-advanced users, but curious as we all are most users put it in advanced or expert mode for all those interesting functions so why make such a button at all again?
    All those functions are there but that doesn't mean you are forced to use them if you don't want that, just heve the exec protection check automatically every file before it executes, which is the same kind of functionallity you meant in WormGuard, be it that TDS's exec protection concentrates on executables and in wormguard on worm, scripts, macros, etc and is better to be seen as an addition besides TDS with several other good features, like the ability to look inside the blocked files in safe mode, so we know what has been blocked and can decide to run the file still or delete it.

    If you're looking for a safe chat / messaging environment have CryptoSuite which has an encrypted chat included for pc-to-pc connection on your invitation without any far away chatserver, it's all taking place on your own pc is hosting the chat that moment, after closing your host it doesn't exist nowhere on internet.

    If you're extra interested in knowning what's running on your system you have Port Explorer to see every connection and what it is doing, including possioble hidden trojan ones and a set of utilities like the port references, resolve fot the IP addresses connecting to you so you can easier decide what looks suspicious, and a fine automatic whois. Port Explorer has a language button, so you can use it in french too if you like.
     
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    Hi,thank you, Tassie and Jooske, for helping me :D . I think I will read CAREFULLY the help file in TDS, before annoying everyone with my questions... (I've read it, but "in diagonal"...). And maybe my wishes about a more "friendly" interface are going to be granted in future TDS 4...

    I would like to say that I've been impressed by Diamondcs products,as when I first heard about Registry prot': I don't know anything in programming, but it seemed me a very uncommon and even so breathtakingly efficient product... . Why didn't others editors think to it?... :eek:

    So, as Jooske adviced me, I'll now have a look to Cryptosuite... :rolleyes: . And the quest for the armoured computer goes on...

    Cheers,
    Nicolas
     
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    Re: Use of TDS...

    Ok... , finally, I should opt for the full version of Process Guard, as Diamondcs team adviced me in a mail. Considering what I have understand, full PG should be more usefull than full TDS in my case: I actually run the free PG, with no particular "protected" programs, wich means that PG protection is low (can someone tell me if I'm wrong ?). So, the goal would be to protect every security softwares, AND the Instant Messenger program: So, preventing it to be modified in memory must be more useful than TDS, in that particular case. And TDS could be used as a simple scanner :rolleyes: .

    nb: I am running NIS, wich must be a primary protection, but I'm not sure about the firewall controlling everything in the case of Instant messenger (I've seen on this forum that some messenger functions can trace their way "above" firewalls.. . msn messenger, in my case).

    All remarks/advice to that point are welcome :D

    Cheers ! :)
     
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