US Security Agency tracks IPhone users

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  1. kareldjag

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    Re: Does the FBI have your Apple UDID?

    Wow.

    So "12,367,232 Apple iOS devices" were listed in "NCFTA_iOS_devices_intel.csv” on his notebook. The filename is ambiguous. They could either be NCFTA volunteers, or potential suspects named by NCFTA members. Time will tell. If it's the latter, maybe some interesting FOIA releases will be forthcoming ;)
     
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    Re: Does the FBI have your Apple UDID?

    Maybe he's a rogue agent ;)
     
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    The FBI is supposed to make a statement as to why such sensitve data was doing on a laptop in the first place and how AntiSec hacked it.
     
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    Re: Does the FBI have your Apple UDID?

    I caught the wink, but what if he was a double-agent? Seriously. If he was working with Anonymous (used as umbrella term here only) as an "inside source" with the FBI (Stangl did have connections with the hacking community); what if they had evidence he was using his connections to feed FBI/NSA/DHS damning information? How would they get back? Maybe by hacking his personal computer? Finding things they never expected? Exposed.

    Just a thought.
     
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    So unencrypted data on a laptop that was not secured properly... Not surprising in the least.
     
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    Thanks @ The Hammer -

    See also: FBI Says Laptop Wasn’t Hacked; Never Possessed File of Apple Device IDs
     
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    did you really think they would come out and say anything else?
     
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    Re: Does the FBI have your Apple UDID?

    I operate like a firewall nowadays - Default Deny is Default Lie when it comes to this stuff. No way this would ever be admitted to. Just my opinion, and yes I own tinfoil.

    PD
     
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    No, but there's still no way to tell who's telling the truth. AntiSec is a hacking group, so it's very possible they grabbed the UUID's from somewhere else and then blamed it on the FBI. They will need to provide more proof.
     
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    If the file they obtained was called Avatar.m2ts, that agent would be in jail and his hard drive would be shipped to New Zealand for forensic discovery :D

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    Verify your Apple UDID here
     
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    There's a tool for iphone/ipod users called udidfaker...
     
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    The "proof" is classified. Julian Assange exposed the "proof" and look where it got him...
     
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    Hi
    The main mantra and religion for secret services is not "In the Truth we trust" but "In the Secret we believe"...
    Just check the History of FBI from Hoover, to the Magic Lantern, Carnivore and other stories http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Lantern_(software)
    Most western military and security agencies have been attacked and there was not a lot of buzz about it, or only to get some budget at the Congress/White House for the Cyberwar...
    As KNOWN examples with Titan Rain and Aurora atack
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_Rain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora

    Even forums like this board are spied in order to check and manipulate citizen opinions http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
    Then lets be serious and stop all kind of angelism...
    Risk of terrorism does not justify all kinds of human rights violations...

    rgds
     
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    http://redtape.nbcnews.com/_news/20...pple-device-ids-leaked-by-anonymous-last-week
     
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    I'd be more inclined to believe Anonymous than that story.
     
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    So to recap...

    Yet, I'm sure that there will still be conspiracy theorists that will continue to claim that AntiSec is telling the truth, and that all of the above statements are just cover-up. Bluetoad is just a paid fall-guy... heck, maybe they are a front for the NSA. (gasp). It's apparently difficult to believe that perhaps AntiSec just wanted to maliciously dump the data they found, and gloss over the matter of their intentions by false claims of 'protecting the common man from Big Brother.'
     
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    Apple Device IDs Leaked by Anonymous Traced to App Developer Blue Toad
     
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    @ kareldjag

    Thanks for the link to the http://cryptome.org article :thumb: VERY revealing & PROVES it, has/can/does happen, & "seemingly" EVERY day ! by the sounds of it :eek:

    Funny, because i've noticed, & suspected for quite a number of years, that "certain" posters on various forums, use Very similar tactics :thumbd: The good news is that, we Know what there modus operandi is, & can post in ways that counter theirs :D
     
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    http://blog.bluetoad.com/2012/09/10...red-in-the-recent-case-of-stolen-apple-udids/
     
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