US DHS digs out 27,000-member child abuse ring buried on Tor

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by caspian, Mar 26, 2014.

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  1. caspian

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    As far as I can tell, all of the videos here were created by the victims themselves.

    How old was the youngest anonymous/LulzSec "criminal"?
     
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    When it comes to stuff like this, a 12 year old girl could willingly film herself and upload it to Youtube, have it taken down and anyone who even took a 10 second glance at it jailed for half their life. According to law these days, victims are victims no matter how stupid they are or how intentional their actions were. As far as Anonymous goes, you've got 13, 14 year old kids doing the heavy lifting and enjoying the hell out of themselves, getting a total pass in return for the "big fish" who may just be doing the "office work". Again, it's just how the courts and LEA operate these days.

    On the subject of TOR, it's a terrible way to seek such material. Ever since FreedomHosting went kaput and some hacker hacked, cleaned, and stole the private key of the Hidden Wiki, you have to already know the sites and where they are to even have a chance to get to it. I certainly don't advocate it, I'm just saying it's one of those "If you want to get into the club, you already have to be a member" deals.
     
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    Maybe we need a minimum age for Internet access ;)
     
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    I often thought that back when I cleaned PCs as a side job. Kids are a PCs worst enemy. That said, I see no way to effectively enforce it without a system that totally destroys privacy. The tradeoff isn't worth it.
     
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    Yes the videos were created by the victims. And as we all know, they do that kind of thing all the time and even post them online themselves. Not to say that they gave permission for these to be posted.

    Good question. And another question I have is did they also charge these kids with the production and distribution of cp, like they have some of the teens in these outrageous sexting prosecutions? That would be the real crime here, in my opinion. Far far more damaging to these kids than the videos.

    But I am going to give the Feds the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are far more rational than these loony small town, small minded prosecutors who have destroyed the lives of those other kids.
     
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    The line between kids trolling old men with cam porn, and old men conning kids to post cam porn for them, is very fine (or fuzzy, take your pick).
     
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