Updating Firefox and Add-Ons with Defensewall

I occasionally find myself frustrated when trying to update programs with Defensewall running.

For instance, I right-click on the Firefox (or some other program) >DefenseWall>Run as Trusted. Often DefenseWall will not let the program run as trusted and I am forced to exit DefenseWall to do the update. I don't like turning off DefenseWall but I find that I must.

Am I doing something wrong?
Is DefenseWall doing something wrong?
Is there a better way?

 

Other words, you run FF as trusted, but it does running untrusted. Am I correct? If I am, find dwall_log_file.txt into your c:\windows folder, zip and send it to me.

 

Ilya:

I don't know how to send you an e-mail. The file is attached.

EDIT: Zip files cannot be attached. I attached the .txt file.

 

Have you checked the file properties for Firefox? Right-click Firefox.lnk or Firefox.exe and it should be this: Untrusted, Non-secured, Not allowed to be modified by untrusted.

Also, take a look at your excludes and untrusted applications lists. Firefox should be on Untrusted applications and not on excludes.

 

The file properties are as you say. I have no programs in Excludes.

 

OMG. Why did you install so many software as untrusted?

1. Keyscrambler components are untrusted.

2. Keyscrambler is untrusted, I:\From J Drive\2009 From Desktop\VIDEO RELATED STUFF\AutoMKV0984\exe\Encoder\MediaInfo.dll is untrusted.

3. Panda is untrusted.

4. C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\SoundMAX\ListEnv.dll is untrusted.

5. Portable VirtualBox untrusted.

6. C:\WINDOWS\system32\libsndfile-1.dll (VirtualDub component?) untrusted.

7. HDConvertToX untrusted.

You have to install Keyscrambler and Panda as trusted, with it you will be able to run FF as trusted.

 

Thank you Ilya. I will get my act together on installing trusted vs. untrusted.

Have a good day and thank you for the support....on this Sunday in April.

 

I just learned that in order to change a file to Trusted from Untrusted, the right-click method does not work and I have to add the file to the Excludes list. I tried it with one program and it worked.

Thanks again.

 

Right-click doesn't work? Maybe, the whole folder is untrusted, check this out.

 

I was able to get most of the folders to change, however, I still have a problem with NeoSafeKeys. The folder (its portable) is on the desktop. I right-clicked and it changed the status of all included items to trusted, however, when it runs, it still shows as untrusted. ?? Any Ideas

Its only a 1.39 Mg folder so I could upload it to Rapidshare for you if that would help.


EDIT: Its possible, the problem I had with right-click method was that I may not have given it enough time to complete. The NeoSafeKeys file, which only has 4 files in it, took a few seconds to complete. I thought it wasn't working and then I got the file processed pop-up.

 

Try to find its folder into the "Untrusted applications" list. Use "Remove" button to remove it from the list.

 

I looked three different times and it (Neo's SafeKeys) is not listed in the Untrusted Applications.

When I run the Neo's SafeKeys v3.exe, DefenseWall shows an additional untrusted program running and the executable (with correct path), are shown in the untrusted processes list.

 

I don't have Defensewall to test this...

Do you experience this same error with the older version of Neo's SafeKeys - Neo's SafeKeys 2008?
Neo's SafeKeys v3 has more protection measures. I'm wondering if one of these - in particular the protective overlay - is confusing Defensewall.

If you need it, here is the direct download of Neo's SafeKeys 2008.

 

dont really need Neo's SafeKeys when you have defensewall

 

Thanks for the recommendation, however, the result is identical.

 

I trust DefenseWall, however, Neo's can be used sometimes as part of layered protection.

 

i guez

 

Neo's Safekey is perfect if you use it from a public place.

the invisible hover mode would even defeat surveillance cameras or somebody looking over your shoulder.

it is the most clever security app i've ever seen.
just read the descriptions from the site:
-http://www.aplin.com.au/neos-safekeys-v3/how-neos-safekeys-v3-works-

 

This case, you should switch off following functions, one by one, and check which one is responsible for this:
1. "Automatically run apps from removable as untrusted".
2. "Consider Network Public (Shared) folder as untrusted".

I suspect, it's about folder sharing.

 

It was the first one. I removed the check from "Automatically run apps from removable as untrusted" and Neo's SafeKeys ran as trusted.

Is there a fix for this other than changing the Option when I want to run Neo's??

 

Yes, add its folder to the "Untrusted applications"->"Excludes" list.

 

This folder is already in this list. That was one of the first things I did.

 

The send DW's logs exported on the issue.

 

Ilya:

Thank you very much for your efforts, however, the Windows XP side of this dual boot machine crashed last night so I now have a greater problem. I'll see if I still have the problem when I recover to one of the images I have stored on my external drive. This may not be for a week or two because I am down at my winter home and I didn't bring any recovery disks with me.

Thanks again for your efforts. Have a good day.