Ubuntu Dapper Review - it will be released later today 8)

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  1. iceni60

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    here it is - the release we've all been waiting for. i think it's the best OS of all-time. not only that but it's completely free, and being free (moneywise as well as the code) it means there is so, so much more you can do to customise it to your liking when compared to Windows.

    when i first tried Ubuntu i was shocked :eek: i stopped using Windows straight away. Ubuntu is a Linux Distro, and i love it :D

    http://lunapark6.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Screenshot-XGL3-2.jpg

    http://lunapark6.com/?p=1235
     
  2. Ailric

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    I ordered my DapperCD the other day. If I could ever get my modem, display drivers, sound and printer all to work I would seriously consider switching too.
    AND NO DAMN COMMAND LINE - NOT ONCE - EVER!
     
  3. tlu

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    Well, I don't know if it's really "the best OS of all-time" but I can confirm that it's really good. I installed the RC a few days ago on my second HD and it's impressing. Unfortunately, I have some Windows applications without a good Linux equivalent, but they might run using Wine. Nevertheless, at the moment I won't switch to Linux completely. But who knows - the times they are a changin'...
     
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    I am gonna upgrade the P3 i have here, witch is running breezy at the moment.
    I still have windows on that machine also, on an other drive, and that will fall victim to a fresh Dapper install later on, that box will be windows free then.

    I would say thank god for the CLI, it saved me the other week because of the detailed information i was able to get from the system with it, very powerfull tool indeed. ;)

    Lamehand
     
  5. pykko

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    ordered...hope it will be nice. :)
     
  6. iceni60

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    as you know the hardware problems have nothing to do with Linux and all to do with the hardware manufactors.

    if you read through the link and see bits where he uses the command prompt and that puts anyone off remember every command he uses has a GUI alternative, he just prefers the command line.

    there's a program you can use which will install and configure everything you will probably need called Automatix, there's another called EasyUbuntu. here's the EasyUbuntu link. if anyone can't find the Automatix link and needs it i'll see if i can find it, i think it does more then EasyUbuntu
    EDIT if you use Automatix/EasyUbuntu make sure it's the correct version - Breezy (last release) or Dapper (latest version which just came out)
    http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/index.html

    also, i have never heard anyone say "i know how to use the command line and don't like it!", once you try it, even for something very simple, you start to see why it's so great and start really liking and using it.
     
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  7. bktII

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    Ordered i386 and 64-bit Dapper DVDs last week. I like Ubuntu as well, but replaced Breezy with FC 5 on my desktop when syslog showed some errors I could not resolve following a kernel upgrade. I Googled on the errors and found very little except a Ubuntu developer comment saying that this bug occurred so infrequently that they were not going to bother with it. No hard feelings as Ubuntu is free and always performed very well otherwise; even with the errors in syslog.

    Whats the difference between a Linux terminal window and the Windows command prompt (cmd.exe) anyway? 6 of 1 and 1/2 of 12 IMO.

    bktII
     
  8. LockBox

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    That's exactly right. I love Ubuntu. It even allows for the mounting of drives with a few clicks of the mouse, just like Windows. I use the LiveCD and love it.
     
  9. iceni60

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    here's the search tool you can use with Dapper (click on the image at the link below to watch the screencast) you can search through your email, file system, internet - anywhere. it's powered by Beagle

    http://blogs.gnome.org/view/nigeltao/2006/03/13/0
     
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    The new Dapper is very nice. The only thing is that the LiveCD did not auto-mount my hard drive like I was led to believe it was supposed to. Anybody know about this?
     
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    i don't know anything about it. other versions haven't auto-mounted the drive but i don't know about Dapper, where is your windows partition? - (first partition on the first drive?) this should help, make sure you read 2. Read How to list partition tables?
    http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs

    you can launch terminal with alt-F2 and typing gnome-terminal
     
  13. MojoWorkin

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    Guess I'll make the jump. . . :ouch:
    Just Dnld'd both the x32 and x64 versions, and will install on a seperate 40GB HDD, as dual boot with (XPpro) Acronis OSS.
    Running the AMD X2, which would be better for finding drivers, etc.?
    Should I stick to the 32 bit? or go ahead and use the Ubuntu distro designed for 64 bit CPU's?
    I have Audigy 2ZS, 7900GT Gfx, and use an Actiontech DSL Modem.
    Not really worried about printers, but I have a Canon flatbed scanner, and want to dump my pictures from my Vivitar Camera.
    I'll be searching the 'net' tonight, to help answer these questions, but I appreciate the knowledgable replies from Wilder's members.
     
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    hi, 64-bit should work fine from what i've heard. you can find out about driver support by running this command whilst using the livecd -
    lspci -n
    then paste the output into here, it's for debain drivers, Ubuntu is debian based but if you want to be totally sure about it you can check up at the Ubuntu Wiki -
    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
    or the forums -
    http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
    or IRC -
    irc.freenode.net #ubuntu
    if you open XChat from the Ubuntu menu and connect to the Ubuntu Servers you should go straight to the Dapper channel. i haven't installed Dapper yet so i'm not sure.


    there's a really good interview with Mark Shuttleworth (Ubuntu Founder) from a couple of days ago at tllts, here's the link to the page -
    http://tllts.info/dl.php?episode=142
    it's a weekly Linux show, i really like it, i think it's worth downloading the interview if you're thinking of installing Ubuntu. MS is very bright and pretty switched on - just like me :D
     
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    Thanks for the extra links.
    I have to shuffle around some things on another drive, to make room for my Acronis Backups, I've been using the 40GB HDD for.
    Prolly read tonight, and install x64 version tomorrow.
    I'll post back after I get to my first 'hangup"... :D
    Lata
     
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    Ok, I'm typing this using the LiveCD now, but it won't recognize any drives I have data on. All are NTFS, do I have to create FAT32 partitions for data I want to share with Ubuntu? I'm talking >200GB of "stuff" here. That's way more than I want to delve into just to run Linux.
    Would I need to make my 40GB drive FAT32 for the Ubuntu install as well?
     
  17. Sputnik

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    I've been playing around with Ubuntu, also with the brand new Dapper. But it doesn't come close to rock-solid Fedora. From the outside Ubuntu looks very nice and attractive to former Windows users, but it just lacks advanced features, and is not as solid as Fedora/Red Hat/Novell (not SUSE).

    But each on his own of cource, Ubuntu is still very nice and I'm sure lots of people will enjoy the Linux goodness with it!
     
  18. iceni60

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    Ubuntu can mount and read files on NTFS file systems, however it can't write to NTFS. there are ways to write to NTFS but i'm not sure how stable it is atm.

    windows can read and write to Ubuntu with no problems because Ubuntu uses Open Soruce and Free software, Windows stuff is closed source - binaries, that's why Ubuntu has problems writting to NTFS.

    both Windows and Linux can read and write to FAT partitions, so it's perfect for sharing files. i don't have a FAT partition because just being able to read, copy and execute files on Windows is good enough for me.

    if you are planing to dual-boot and have more then one HDD and want to put Ubuntu on the second HDD then it might be a good idea to read up on it first (lots has been written about it and it shouldn't be a problem).

    when you dual-boot Ubuntu/Linux and Windows it's important to install Windows first, it's more difficult the other way.

    Ubuntu uses a boot loader called Grub which i think will be put on the first HDD. grub will load first at boot and ask which OS you want to boot into.

    the Ubuntu installer has a partition manager which is very good, so as long as you have the space and know where you want to install Ubuntu then that should be all you need.

    here are some links about dual-booting. Linux uses two partition - the main partition and swap space
    http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236
    http://www.hezardastan.org/breezy_xp_dualboot/en/
     
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