Ubuntu 18.04 Beta - The good, the bad and mostly ugly

Discussion in 'all things UNIX' started by Mrkvonic, Apr 16, 2018.

  1. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    Blue Monday. Dedoimedo sadly approves of this short and extremely negative preview of Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver beta release, focusing on some new features and numerous problems and regressions, covering encryption, online accounts, Livepatch, software management inconsistencies, broken Samba, broken UI, slow performance, and more. We're not going to have a fun distro season, it seems.

    https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-beaver-beta.html


    Cheers,
    Mrk
     
  2. Daveski17

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    Hmmm ... I'm so going to miss Unity. :(
     
  3. Kerodo

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    I think Gnome 3 can be good if it's done right, for example, Manjaro has a nicely done Gnome 3, but is otherwise plagued with bugs etc. Debian Gnome is fine also. Ubuntu has been (IMHO) just simply one massive bug-fest ever since 16.04. The last Ubuntu I'd even use was 14.04. Everything since 16.04 has been trash. So this beta/release coming up is no surprise... Anyway, I'd not blame it on Gnome, more blame goes to the Ubuntu core for what I'd call piss poor quality and production nowadays....
     
  4. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    Of course Canonical is to blame, but then, they have been napalm-kissed by the "love" from the community, and you can only do so much with a defective base. There was a reason why they decided to branch of Gnome back in 2011, so this return to Gnome is a return to 2011 or so.
    Mrk
     
  5. Joxx

    Joxx Registered Member

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    This.
     
  6. accessgranted

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    Hi MRK, I couldn't help but notice your mentioning the fact that Ubuntu 16.04 TT is presently your production-level Linux system of choice. Out of curiosity, I was wondering why CentOS is not!? What is CentOS specifically missing compared to Trusty, knowing that CentOS is famously one of your preferred systems anyway?
    Regards.
     
  7. reasonablePrivacy

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    They probably couldn't keep the same pace of development of Unity/Mir, as Gnome developed Gnome/Wayland session.

    Fortunately I am going to miss this drama as Openbox/X11 user for the time being.
     
  8. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    It's 14.04 not 16.04 btw. And the reason is - CentOS cannot achieve the same level of desktop functionality without third-party sources. I cannot rely on possibly whimsical decisions from third-party repo maintainers for prod systems.
    Mrk
     
  9. ZeroDay

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    I'm actually enjoying the beta version of Ubuntu 18.04, no problems here at all. I am ****** with Canonical because a lot of loyal users truly believe in Unity/Mir and truly believed it was going progress, but no, Canonical **** on them yet again. As I say I do genuinely like Ubuntu 18.04 and even in Beta I'm having zero problems. Although I am spending more time on the Beta version of Ubuntu Budgie 18.04 and Solus OS, The Solus OS team really have created something nice, new and fresh. I'm looking forward to the next version of Linux Mint Cinnamon which is my favourite distro and desktop environment, but I can also see myself spending a fair amount of time on Ubuntu 18.04. Canonical really did **** on their users yet again though with building the users hopes up regarding Unity 8 and even Unity 8 on mobile. I believe they should have stuck at it with Unity it was a desktop environment, albeit a gnome plugin bassically that I really enjoyed using. I may give Manjaro a try again at some point, but it would be the Cinnamon version, does anyone know how that version is running, good, bad?
     
  10. Beyonder

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    So which programs will use Snap by default?
     
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