Ubuntu 16.04, re-tested six months later

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  1. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    Later is always better. OR IS IT? Here's a short review of Ubuntu 16.04.1 Xenial Xerus, six months after the initial release, covering updates, look & feel, customization, networking support - Samba, Wireless, Bluetooth, smartphone support - iPhone and Ubuntu Phone, Software Center, resource usage, performance, responsiveness, stability, outstanding bugs and issues, and more.

    http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-xerus-six-months-later.html


    Cheers,
    Mrk
     
  2. Joxx

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    Unfortunately I must concur.
     
  3. accessgranted

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    Well, I have to say that I like Xerus much better than Trusty Tahr. The latter has been giving me headaches on all the computers I installed it on, point versions included, so much so that I never really left Precise Pengolin. Xerus first few months were not good IMHO (well, pretty bad in fact), but I like the 16.4.1 version a lot as it runs strong and quick on my PC + Toshiba laptops + Lenovo G50. One of my top three distros alongside Arch and CentOS. Fedora 24 is superb also, but the 18 months release schedule is a put off compared to Ubuntu's 5 year LTS, CentOS' 10 years or Arch's rolling model.
     
  4. Daveski17

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    Still think I'll stick with Trusty.
     
  5. Kerodo

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    16.04 and even 16.04.1 have seemed extremely buggy for me. I even got some wild "internal error" from .1 at one point. Even after 6 months, many of the minor cosmetic glitches and bugs still hadn't been fixed. I don't know what happened to the Ubuntu devs lately, but it ain't good. I'd stick with 14.04 Trusty myself as well. It's much cleaner...
     
  6. Daveski17

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    Yeah, Canonical need to get on top of this.
     
  7. Brian K

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    Kerodo,

    Thanks for that. I have 16.04 in a multi-boot and I'm downloading 14.04.5 at present. I'll add it to my multi-boot.

    I don't use Ubuntu very often so I haven't really seen any issues.
     
  8. Kerodo

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    @Brian K Yep, I have an image here of 14.04.5 also, and it's pretty solid. There are also a couple of older threads on 16.04 in the All Things Unix sections with user's experiences.
     
  9. MisterB

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    I have two installations and one VM of 16.04. No real issues. One installation has a wacom tablet driver bug--no cursor--while the other doesn't. That's it for glitches and bugs. It has been stable and fast. On the outside, it looks and feels the same as 14.04 so no readjustment issues. I wish Windows would learn the value of a stable GUI. It does use a bit more memory than 14.04 but its memory use is still half of what Windows needs.
     
  10. Daveski17

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    Canonical offer me the update regularly, but I'm pretty happy with Trusty.
     
  11. NormanF

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    Ubuntu LTS is rock-solid. This is only the first of four to five point releases over the next three years.
     
  12. amarildojr

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    It used to be. 12.04 is a nice release, even to this day. 14.04 is a little less "rock solid", and 16.04 is a partial disaster.

    Hell, not even Debian is rock solid anymore.
     
  13. Kerodo

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    Totally agree with you on that one.... it seems that LTS isn't what it used to be..
     
  14. NormanF

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    Ubuntu 16.10 "Yakkety Yak" in various flavors has finally reached general release status.

    Those unhappy with 16.04 can now upgrade to the normal Ubuntu release.
     
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    Agree. Something strange happened here yesterday and I removed Debian.
    I'm installing Scientific Linux right now.
    So far with all the distros I've tried, CentOS and SL have been the most solid.
     
  16. amarildojr

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    For what I could read on Phoronix, this release is even buggier than 16.04.
     
  17. Kerodo

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    Yeah, the .10's are always buggier than the LTS releases, you can count on it. I agree once again...
     
  18. Joxx

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    Ubuntu Mate 16.10 had mouse issues during live session, network issues during installation and then screwed up the Grub, nothing would show on power up, had to use a Xubuntu 16.04 live USB to solve the problem.
     
  19. Brian K

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    I've installed 1610. No problems except when running this...

    apt-get install lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 libpng12-0:i386 libjpeg62:i386 libxext6:i386 libxft2:i386 libxinerama1:i386 libstdc++6:i386

    I get "unable to locate libpng12-0:i386". I need this to make IFL run in the 64-bit environment. It worked in 1604 and earlier. Any ideas?
     
  20. amarildojr

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    I think Canonical should do kinda like Fedora: release when it's ready, because clearly Ubuntu is once again not ready for the desktop. The same thing happened with 11.04 and 11.10, it also happened when they transitioned to multi-arch, and it seems to be happening now when they're yet focusing a lot on the mobile market.

    I mean, some people can't even install Ubuntu 16.10. That is in no way acceptable.

    I've had similar problems with UbuntuMATE 15.10. It is my favorite "spin" of Ubuntu, but it seems the problems are in the core, so there's no way of avoiding them by using K/L/Xubuntu or Ubuntu MATE.
     
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    It seems this package was removed in July, because of two bugs https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/amd64/libpng12-0

    Bug1 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ source/alsa-driver/ bug/822318
    Bug2 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ source/libpng/ bug/1595485

    You can, however, download it and install it while it's not back in the repos (if it will ever come back): http://launchpadlibrarian.net/255287432/libpng12-0_1.2.54-6ubuntu1_amd64.deb

    You can also download the source code and compile it.
    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/amd64/libpng12-0/1.2.54-6ubuntu1
    https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/ archive/primary/ files/libpng_1.2.54-6ubuntu1.debian.tar.xz
     
  22. Brian K

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    amarildojr,

    Thanks for the info. I'll install 1610 32-bit to run IFL.
     
  23. amarildojr

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    No problem, Brian :)
     
  24. amarildojr

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    Just sharing this UbuntuMATE 16.10 video showing the new "Software Boutique". To me, that is a KILLER feature for new and advanced users! I really liked what they did to it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-7ZWQrcHME
     
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