tiny firewall 6.5.126 passes all the leak tests

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  1. bogota

    bogota Registered Member

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    Hi im just trying tiny firewall and very impressed, just did not only passed all the leak tests, it also pased the avaliable tests of:

    http://kareldjag.over-blog.com/article-232553.html

    if configured correctly.

    you can get reg control, system privileges, dll load, parent child spawn appl, ole/com control, ids & ips, nat/ics, services protection etc......

    im very very impressed

    what do you think about this firewall?
     
  2. I think it's a m*o*n*s*t*e*r !!
    Tiny is a living proof that a dream_came_true isn't always what it looked like. Perfect for paranoid who is also mazochist!
    Someone who uses all it's functions - doesn't have self-confidence (probably his knowledge is poor).
    If it's nothing of above - than aperson is just curious, very curious, and beeing curious is healthy! ;)
    Dr.Oetker :D
     
  3. TraCKs

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    Thats great, ZA Pro also passes all those tests since there new apdate, 2 months ago... :)
     
  4. bogota

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    Hi

    "Tiny is a living proof that a dream_came_true isn't always what it looked like. Perfect for paranoid who is also mazochist!"

    paranoid... perhaps, but mazochist i dont think so, tiny could be configured to ask just the necesary, is it possible to crate groups that includes the conditions required for each aplication or aplication groups like office, browsers, antivirus, windows services, group etc. out of the box offers good protection but its better
    to do a personal config, its very boring, but once you have done, you dont have to worry any more.

    each new appl launched invokes a window that offers a lot of options like: run without security context, run on the context security, run like instalation software, run in track and reverse mode (very good idea), dont run or is possible to asign the corresponding group

    Please i would like to hear more users of tiny here

    Regards
     
  5. Chuck57

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    All I can say is that anyone who uses Tiny firewall is a lot braver than me. I have an older version, 4.x and ended up locking myself out of my computer. Absolutely nothing would work. I ended up having to reformat in order to fix the problem.

    It proved to me that Tiny does work, and that I'm not knowlegeable enough to use it.
     
  6. bogota

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    But.. the last version is easy to use by deffault, out of the box offers good protection and its forum is very helpfull, takes a lot of time to tweak but i love it
     
  7. brjoon1021

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    They do not have a free version as far as I can tell. Do they?
     
  8. yahoo

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    I am using TINY too, and I like it. As experienced users, we tend to think TINY is easy and gradually forget the difficulties that we encountered long time ago as a new user. TINY 6.5 may be good enough for experienced users, but I have to admit that it could still be a challenge to new users. It is not merely caused by the software itself, but also related to the user's knowledge about registry, processes, DLL's, net protocols, and so on. If a user lacks the fundamental knowledge about these stuffs, TINY would always be tough as rule making in TINY needs some of such fundamental knowledge.

    I do not think that I am paranoid at all. However, I do think it's not a bad idea to have more lines of defence if you are capable of building them:)
     
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  9. khazars

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    what's Tiny free version like, is it any good?

    And, is tiny like kerio 2.1.5 version or different?

    I'm using Jetico and the momnet and am happy with it!
     
  10. Chuck57

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    I had Tiny free years ago, on a Win98 machine and loved it. It was the first firewall I ever used. I used it for a while on a new computer with XP. When SP2 came along, the Tiny firewall wouldn't work on my computer, so I had to change.

    Tiny 2.xx free can still be found if you do a search. It's a good firewall, but might not work if you have XP SP2. Kerio 2.1.5 is almost identical and from what I've read here is still a good firewall with the right rule set.

    I use Kerio 4.2, free and love it. The new Tiny firewall....I need a lot more firewall experience than I have before I'd feel confident in trying it.
     
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    thx Chuck for the reply!

    So, the new Tiny is not like the old Tiny and Kerio? I have used Kerio 2.1.5 and liked it a lot, but switched to Jetico and CHX-I.
     
  12. se7engreen

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    I hope I'm not butting in, but I thought I'd add that the latest Tiny is drastically different than the older free version. The latest Tiny is more than just a firewall, it is also a comprehensive application, file, and registry sandbox with the ability to track and reverse changes made by unknown apps (hence the name track 'n' reverse). I would guess that if you are comfortable with Jetico, you'd be able to learn Tiny FW.
     
  13. khazars

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    cheers seven! Has anyone got a link to download the free version of Tiny, I tried their link but it's a FTP link and it just hangs using IE and Mozilla ?
     
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    I agree totally, the latest version is much simpler to use then the previous versions.

    Further more i think Tiny personal Firewall 2005 Pro is the best
    security software there is for your Windows XP system.

    But it seems that we are shouting in the dessert.

    Everybody keeps refering to the older versions (which were very difficult to use).

    *) But ..Tiny Personal Firewall has the same features as Process Guard
    built in AND a lot more!

    see this:
    http://www.tinysoftware.com/home/ti...A3&&pg=content05&an=tf_comparison&cat=cat_tf6

    Btw..
    On Jun 28 Computer Associates International, Inc. announced the acquisition of Tiny Software.

    I am using Tiny for a very long time, and until now have never seen
    something like it.

    The only thing that i think is VERY wrong with this product is it's name
    it is NOT a firewall it is A COMPLETE Windows Security/Protection Suite.

    Tiny's host (endpoint) security engine provides the total protection of the computer resources including:
    • Network Interface(s)
    • Files and Folders
    • Registry
    • Applications start
    • Applications behavior
    • Devices
    • ... and other system components
    Here is the list of the most attractive features from the network security standpoint:


    • stateful packet filtering
    • prevents unknown processes from stealing your data to the internet
    • prevents unknown processes from misusing your trusted applications
    • selective filtering of endpoint and pass-through traffic
    • selective filtering of the network traffic per interfaces
    • selective filtering of a network traffic coming to an interface with multiple IP addresses
    • interfaces divided into zones
    • full support for terminal services - rules per process per user
    • time restrictions on network traffic
    • integration with Active Directory for gateway deployment
    • fully XML compliant policies
    • ... and many more
    Windows Security

    The Windows Security engine protects the computer resources against unwanted and suspicious accesses and changes. The Windows Security engine allows you to set your own list of trusted application and their access rights to the system. The Windows Security engine isolates the applications minimizing their impact on system resources.

    The most attractive features include:


    • code injection prevention prevents malicious processes to misuse trusted applications
    • process spawning control prevents malicious processes from starting other applications
    • complete file protection preventing unwanted changes to your file system
    • complete registry protection preventing unwanted changes to your registry
    • system service installation control preventing trojans installing themselves as a system service
    • device protection preventing misusing of USB devices, COM ports, modems, and other devices
    • complete Dll loading control allows to specify which dlls may be loaded by which applications - no more undetectable trojans
    • ... and many more
    etc. etc. etc.
     
  16. se7engreen

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    On top of all that you just posted, there is also very little impact on system resources. In that regard the name Tiny is very accurate.
     
  17. tuatara

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    yes, it is expensive but it replaces a lot of other tools and still
    has more features.

    Antimalware is my work and hobby,
    and i have licenses for almost every product there is out there.
    But this is a product i am using meself when the system must be safe.
     
  18. theshadow247

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    i have been going between filseclab and tiny firewall.but the more i use tiny the more i like it.it is a lot easyer than older versions.
    .i have never felt as safe with a firewall.as with tiny. :D
     
  19. bogota

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    I have to say that there is some things you would do before using the firewall, ilike download the snort rules to the ids, download the latest driver to Physical memory device protection, download the dll to make work the back up
    utility, its simple an all those archives could be obtained at forum page :

    http://www.tinysoftware.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?

    you must be registered there, then can find all about tiny. :)

    regards
     
  20. cinrg

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    >> it is NOT a firewall it is A COMPLETE Windows Security/Protection Suite.
    Are you sure? And what about AntiVirus (and AntiSpam)?
    And many of your friends will be able to work with TF? But what about huge type of non-experienced users...
    And price of this cake (TF pro) is 99$.. Very high.
     
  21. chew

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    Hmmm ... recently I have been looking at Firewall like Look 'n' Stop and Outpost ... but I have almost forgotten Tiny until now.

    So my questions: (couldn't find this info on Tiny's site)

    1) Is it a One time payment i.e. no annual renewal fees?

    2) Does it work with multiple profile i.e. limited user?

    Cheers

    :)
     
  22. tuatara

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    AntiVirus: It sure protects your VERY UNSAFE Windows XP Os
    against a lot of things that a virus would do.
    But it is not a Virusscanner.

    AntiSpam: I've started with E-mail via UUCP, later on i used SMTP and POP.
    Years later POP3 and again years later IMAP.
    And after YEARS of using IMAP the prices of webmail were so low, that
    i started to use webmail.
    Spam is filtered on the server via lots of AntiSpam tools.

    I know that there are still people who are using outlook which is by far
    the most unsafe email-client there is out there.

    But the best way to handle Spam is on the mailserver.
    If you can't do that and your ISP can't.
    Switch to a email Provider or use a tool like MailWasher Pro
    that removes spam from your ISP's mailserver BEFORE it enters your pc.

    So i never get SPAM on my computers (clients).

    And ok, and also Tiny doesn't give you the XP security updates you need.

    What i meant was that it protects Files,Registry,Network Ports,OS,Memory
    devices , processes etc. etc.

    And yes it is expensive, it is EASY to use (i am not saying this about the previous versions) and if you want your pc protected just as good with other tools, you pay more.

    And .. if you look at my other posts you'll see that i am not always
    positive about software we discuss here.

    But i have tested a lot of Software firewalls over the last years,
    and have never seen one that was better. (even more simple: yes)
     
  23. se7engreen

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    $99 is not that much for the functionality that you get. Here's a common combination that I've seen at Wilders: Process Guard $29.95 + RegDefend $29.95 + Outpost $39.95 = $99.85 and you still don't have all of the functionality of Tiny. Not to mention that too many kernel level apps can possibly leave your system unstable.
     
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  24. bogota

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    totally agree :)
     
  25. cinrg

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    Ok,
    >> and you still don't have all of the functionality of Tiny
    Tiny is not a panacea. Without AV it's possible to defeat Tiny in not so complex way.
    I think that KIS 2006 will be a more (maybe not much more, but more) suitable choice for total protection. And cheaper. Am I wrong? Could you provide link to some comparison?
     
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