TI 10 - Upgraded HD showing old HD specs after using recovery

Brian, yes I downloaded and installed Express Burn Plus. I clicked on the DATA icon along the top and then found the file I had downloaded and unzipped. I then burned it to a CD. Below is a picture of how it looks on the CD. Again, I didn't even know what an ISO file was.
http://www.pbase.com/bob_burkett/image/97152060.jpg

I put the CD in the drive and rebooted the computer. It booted up like normal. I thought the computer was bypassing the CD and just going to the HD to boot from. I then tried to adjust the boot order for it to look for the CD first. When I tried to boot again, I got a message saying "sector boot device not available". Trying to get back to a normal boot I got a blue screen of death kind of message and had to turn off the computer via the power switch. I got a little gun shy after that.

If you hit the recovery icon in TI 10, it takes you right to the restore data wizard. This is what Grover uses in his tutorial.

 

Bob, that screen shot tells the story. It hasn't been burnt as an ISO. Damn.

Right click the ISO and click "Burn using ImgBurn". Then the CD will boot.

 

Express Burn Plus isn't ImgBurn.

 

Yeah, I just figured that out. Soooo, I downloaded the proper program from your link. I created the proper ISO and burned it to a cd. I booted up with the CD and went through your directions. I hit the final apply. It started to work and then I got an error message. AAARGH. I tried to save the error message, but I don't know where they are saved to. I have searched my HD for any error details and I can't find any.

 

Bob,
It would be helpful if you posted your attachment images direct to the Acronis forum.

Listed below is a smaller version of your images:
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Disk Management

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partition resize

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MBR restore

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Brian,
My objective here is for him to go back and start from the beginning using my Restore with resizing guide. Sometimes I am not sure of exactly what he is saying.

 

Bob, from a Command Prompt run chkdsk /f on your C: drive then try the Parted Magic CD again. You are so close.

 

Grover said:

Hi Grover,
I'm using the little yellow icon that gives the http://tag around my JPG's that are hosted at another site. I don't know why they come out as links instead of photos. Any advise on getting a photo to show up in the thread would be helpful.

 

Bob,
Would you post an attachment similar to my image G5 and G9 in the Restore Guide with Resizing. You can create these attachments by simulating a Recovery using the disk image backup files. The simulation must be done from within Windows in order to capture the images.

You posted an attachment above of the C drive resizing but this does not show what happened on partition 1 resize. The G5 screen can show a lot. The G9 screen should be the very first resizing screen which appears after screen G8.

Your images show the original drive not to be attached and hopefully safely put away. Yes, it is the disk receiving the clone that also receives the MBR--which is disk 1 in your attachment.

I cannot answer your question about resizing until we see G5 since the Disk management shot does not include your original drive. Only the two 500GB are attached.

The G5 shot will show what partitions are included in the backup file (*.tib) restore and where located--I hope.

During your partition restore with resizing, the only partition which should be increased will the the System partition. You should not resize or change the size of the other smaller partitions--based on what we have seen so far.

I note you are trying to do the restore with resize from within Windows. When you actually perform the real restore, It should be performed from within the TI Rescue CD.

 

Bob, Attachments will only display when posted to this site--it will not directly display images from links due to security concerns. Check my signature for help with attachments.

Also suggest that you follow Brian's instructions until you get his resolved.You can't use the instructions from both of us. If you find that you cannot achieve his intended goal, then you can use my instructions as the last resort. It would be a shame to start over again unless you really have to.

 

We all posted at "once". Bob, I hope you didn't miss Post #32. chkdsk should fix that error.

 

Grover said:

Well, I did a chkdsk /f on the C drive and everything went smooth. I booted up with Parted Magic and got an error message once I clicked the start or apply button on the very last step. I was really hoping that would work. Brian, thanks so much for your efforts. Both of you have been GREAT!

Grover, here is my G5 and G9 versions

Also, on my G-9 shot I know to extend the slider all the way to the right, but should I change the free space before from 39.22 MB to zero? Thank you again for your patience with me.

 

Bob, I'm disappointed too.

Over to you, Grover.

 

Bob,
Questions: 1. Are you currently booting up with your new 500GB drive installed?

2. Do you know why there 39MB of unallocated space before your Drive C partition? This does not relate to getting a larger drive.

3. Open c:\boot.ini file in Notepad and see whether your are booting from partition 1 or partition 2.

4. Simulate performing the Restore with resize several times while still within Windows. My guide is just that. It is not custom designed for your specific partition arrangement.The more you practice the more comfortable you will feel.
You can practice it by proceeding all the way until you get to the Proceed screen. There you should click the Cancel key until you are ready to perform the function for real which should when booted from the TI Rescue CD

You asked:
Should I just move the slider all the way to the right?
Yes, but not totally. You need to leave 54.88 mb unallocated. That screen should be similar to this:
..free space before= 39.22 MB
..partition size of 410.82 GB
..Free space after 54.88 MB

And should I do the same when I get to the similar screen with the FAT 32?
Yes, there should be no unallocated space before or after the partition which should show a size of 54.88
..Free space before=0
..Partition size=54.88 MB
..Free space after=0

When I check the MBR and Track O partition and hit next I get the screen below
Disk 1 (Maxtor is the internal drive) and Disk 2 is the external drive. Which one should I highlight?
Choose the disk receiving the restore which is the internal drive or Disk 1.

When I get to the final step I see it is going to reboot and delete the NTSF partition. Do I need to have the TI 10 disk in the cd rom so the computer can reboot?

You will be performing the restore when booted to the Rescue CD. You should get a window saying "operation completed" or something to that effect. Then you can remove the Rescue CD. Disconnect the USB drive and then reboot.

My next visit to the forum will probably not be until later tonight.

 

Grover, thanks for hanging with me here.

Grover asked:

Yes, it has worked flawlessly.

Grover asked:

The total space of the FAT 16 (15.66 MB) and unallocated space of 39.22 MB equal the 54.88 MB you mentioned (see image below)

Here is a shot of my c:\boot.ini from notepad. I appear to be booting from partition 2.

I've gone through the steps up to the final press of proceed a half dozen times. I just wanted to make sure about a few last specific things. BTW, I know to boot from the TI 10 disk when I do the operation. Thanks Grover

 

Yes, go ahead. If the change causes any problems, we can redo.

Note: Your disk management also shows that Drive C is partition 2 and your Fat 16 as partition 1.
Should your restore result in your drive not booting, then redo the restore and put the Fat 16 as the first partition in the restore.

 

Gotcha. About to start now...

 

When you get to the position of Image G5 which is "Partition or Disk to Restore", what is listed first?

If you see this before you start, I suggest that you leave the 39.22 at the beginning. Do not change it to 0.

 

Hey Grover,
I was going to let you and Brian know in the morning (even though it's now pushing 3:20 AM PST) that everything went like a charm! I've been trying out a bunch of programs and rebooting and no problems. I set the 39MB to zero as I missed your last post by a few minutes. I did notice the unallocated 39MB when I first checked out the drive image (screen shot below). If you think leaving the 39MB in the equation will give FAT16 the 54MB you mentioned and that is something important, I'll redo things. Look at the screen shot and let me know. In the mean time, all is well. For the umteenth time, a HUGE thanks to you and Brian for putting up with a noob at this.

 

Bob, excellent work. Grover, thanks for your assistance.

 

Brian,
Your suggestion in post #2 should have worked. Ahhhh. It should have been a much easier solution.

Bob B,

Thank you for taking the time (early morning) to let us know of your success. Your success was welcome news to us all.

Just to clarify, which partition (C or FAT16) was displayed on the first resize screen during the actual restore when using the Rescue Cd?
Would you also do this for us. Simulate performing a cloning operation and see which partition is displayed when the first resizing screen appears. I am expecting the FAT16 partition to show first.

Regarding the 39 mb unallocated space. Prior to the creation of the backup archive you used, do you recall any attempts to use the Secure Zone or another use that might have created this unallocated space. My question here relates to the period prior to backup creation. To your knowledge has the 39 mb unallocated space always been there?

The practice surely was beneficial and made you feel more comfortable with TrueImage. Hopefully, by now, you have already performed another new full disk backup onto your external for future use. For safety and data security, the external should only be attached while in actual use--not attached all the time.

My first choice for a solution would have been as listed on page 24 of my Partition Restore with Resize Guide whereby you first perform a full "disk" restore followed by a single partition restore of C only. While restoring C only, the single partition restore offers the opportunity to resize the partition to fill the space.

I did not choose this option because I felt there might have been changes to your disk during the trial use of the Secure Zone. Looking back, this probably should have still been my first choice. This still could be an option should the need arise.

You progressed very well with your attachments. One tip for future screen captures.

Do not work from a maximized screen. Work for a half or three/quarter size screen. Manipulate the windows size before capture so it is the smallest possible window. Use the mouse pointer and pull in the side and bottom margins of the window being captured. The Disk Management screen is a good example of being able to adjust both the margins and even the middle and bottom horizontal bars to reduce the window size. The result is a much smaller window which occupies less space on the postings. Plus, those viewers still on 56K dial-up(such as myself) benefit from a much smaller file size--which loads much faster when the thread is to be viewed. My personal preference is to bring all my screen captures into my image editor and remove any excess space not needed for image clarity. Your capture of the boot.ini file, and my post #30, are good examples of the excess blank space being removed before posting. I'm not criticizing--just fine tuning.​

As for the very small unallocated space, I would just leave alone for now.

This has been a good learning opportunity for all of us.

 

Brian-Grover,
I got your post, but I'm running out right now. I'll get back to you tomorrow with answers. I just didn't want you to think I was blowing you off.

 

Grover said:

Couldn't have done it without all the help I received.

Grover asked:

Just before clicking on the final proceed button I pulled out my camera and took a couple of screen shots to document what I did on the chance things go Hindenburg wrong. I have attached them below.

Grover asked:

I just did the cloning test within Windows and booted up with the TI 10 CD and Fat 16 showed first both times.

Grover asked:

As far as I know, this was the way the original 160 GB drive was shipped to me from Dell.


Grover - Brian and the others that have chimed in, I really want to thank you for all the assistance. It's been a great learning experience for me. I'm a moderator on a photography forum and I know how the same old basic questions can become monotonous. Thank you for what you are doing.

Let me know if there is any additional info I can give you. I do have a 160GB HD with a complete backup taken a month ago in case a then and now scenario would be beneficial.

I'll be lurking, Bob.

 

Bob,
Thank you for your followup. Your response about the clone showing FAT16 was what I was expecting. It has been the C partition showing first on the restore function which has been confusing. The DiskManagement shows the FAT16 as first and yet it does not show first in the restore. Confusing!

Keep making those backups! You never know when you will need them.....

 

Grover said:

I may be partitionally challenged, but I know enough to back up drives and keep them in different locations.

Excellent advise in your PDF guide to transitioning from one hard drive to another. This is light years ahead of chapter 13 and 14 of the TI manual. Thumbs up!!!!