Re: Is XP the most popular and successful OS of all time? That coincides with my observations as well. With operating systems that have more holes in them than a screen door, you can't patch your way to security. I've also concluded that the risk of running an older or unpatched system is deliberately exaggerated, again to push sales. What you describe with Win 7, I've been doing with XP-SP2 and 98SE. I've made no effort to identify or avoid potentially malicious sites. During my beta testing of SSM, I sought them out. Remember the .wmf exploits? Remember this from SANS? It got my attention when it singled out 98 so I decided to find out. I never could affect my 98 unit with it, even with all defenses shut down, but I did manage to capture and submit 2 brand new variants of the exploit that everything on VirusTotal missed. Remember this one? 0day: PDF pwns Windows. Easily defeated with any security app that gives the user control over parent-child permissions. I've lost count of the times stuff like this has come and gone, or how many times I've watched these "exploits" bounce off of my "insecure and obsolete systems". You mention wondering why you don't have more issues? Maybe it's because the threats are hyped way beyond the actual risk. They don't take any of the users defenses into account, like reducing, hardening, and isolating the attack surface. There's all kinds of posts and comments about what attackers can do with this code, usually accompanied by "you're vulnerable without the latest and greatest". This code doesn't just teleport in and run itself, although they sure make it sound that way. IMO, they're assuming a big, unprotected attack surface that lets this code just pass through. If that's the kind of system someone runs, then they deserve what they get. I won't say those claims are impossible, but until I see something more than theoretical rhetoric, I'll stay with what I have. I enjoy running an OS that uses less than 2GB of disk space with all apps installed, flies on 1GB of RAM, runs everything I want, and repels everything I throw at it.