This is why I hate Windows 10

Discussion in 'privacy problems' started by Holysmoke, Sep 3, 2016.

  1. Holysmoke

    Holysmoke Registered Member

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    My wife insists on using it and I log activity.
    These are some of the results from their telemetry in the past few hours:

    tsfe.trafficshaping.dsp.mp.microsoft.com
    fe3.delivery.mp.microsoft.com
    dl.delivery.mp.microsoft.com
    livetileedge.dsx.mp.microsoft.com
    win10.ipv6.microsoft.com
    officeclient.microsoft.com
    tlu.dl.delivery.mp.microsoft.com
    wdcp.microsoft.com
    client.wns.windows.com
    ocos-office365-s2s.msedge.net

    she has spybot beacon installed and all immunized and it uses a large hosts file but they thwart the hosts file and find many ways around it. she disabled everything to do with telemetry and changed registry entries etc but they still get their info
     
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  2. Peter2150

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    Install Win 7
     
  3. Kerodo

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    You can try something like O&O's Shutup10, which seems to do a pretty good job, but if you're going to use 10, you might as well accept that it is what it is. If you can't stand it, then use 8.1 or 7, or even Linux. They all work.
     
  4. Holysmoke

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    I use 7 but my wife insists on 10, same with my son.
     
  5. Minimalist

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    If they want to use it and they are OK with lower level of privacy, then just let them use it.
     
  6. Holysmoke

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    I do let them, thus this thread, I just wanted to vent and say I hate 10.
     
  7. Minimalist

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    Hehe, OK. :)
    This degradation of privacy is also one of the things I don't like about Win 10.
     
  8. Umbra

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    telemetry and privacy issues aren't the same thing. Anyway we all have military grade secrets or very shameful datas to hide from MS..., right?

    /sarcasm
     
  9. Holysmoke

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    https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2015/responding-to-nothing-to-hide-nothing-to-fear

     
  10. Minimalist

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    Yes, those people that "don't have anything to hide" can put their cameras all over their home and stream it online. You know - they don't have anything to hide, do they? :)
     
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    that is precisely why I use this thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-windows-10-upgrade-disable-telemetry.780476/

    and this bat file http://www.mediafire.com/download/o7njd49eokvoom9/Remove Telemetry-Win10 Upgrade Updates v2.3.bat

    with my Win 7 Pro PC.

    I just hope somehow my wife and son aren't compromising me with some new Win 10 network sniffing that compromises everything else on the LAN

    If I had a PC that was compatible with Mint or Qubes I would use it. Damn Dell makes sure not to support anything like that.

    I also wonder if it is all in vain since I have the latest Intel chip which probably spies on everyone anyway and who could stop that? Bios is filled with telemetry/spying etc. most likely
     
  13. ProTruckDriver

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    I bought Windows 7 because support for Windows XP ended. I've been running Windows 7 ever since.

    Why I Hate Windows 10:

    1. I would have no problems with Windows 7 if Microsoft would have stopped pushing Windows 10 down my throat.
    2. I am also not a beta tester and don't want to be for Windows 10.
    3. Microsoft's Business Tactics on the Push for Windows 10 is a turn off for me. (Micromanagement)

    I have never tried or will ever try Windows 10. Microsoft has lost me as a OS Customer after Windows 7 support expires, unless they start screwing with the Windows 7 customers sooner. Their sneaky push for Windows 10 is a turn off. If they got away with the way they pushed this out, time will tell what will be coming from Microsoft that you can't stop or block in the future. Who knows what Microsoft has up their sleeve, maybe you won't be able to run any other Security Software but Microsoft. I was a loyal customer for years with Microsoft until the way they pushed Windows 10. Now I work off of a different OS. Thanks Microsoft for the many years I've been using your OS.
     
  14. roger_m

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    Points one and three don't really matter too much now that the Microsoft have stopped offering the free upgrade. While I didn't like Microsoft trying to force Windows 10 onto users, it was not much of an issue for me, as I upgraded to Windows 10 as soon as it was released. One of the computers I upgraded I use for work and could not afford to have an unstable operating system on it. However, I had enough faith in Windows 10 to upgrade to it from Windows 8.1 as soon as it was released. I don't regret this, as I never had any issues with Windows 10 on that computer, and prefered it to Windows 8.1.

    As for point two. In my opinion Windows 10 Anniversary Update is the best OS that Microsoft has ever released. I works really well for me, and fixed some issues I had with the previous build on the main laptop I use. I've got it running on ten laptops, and it works well on all of them, so I disagree with the beta tester tag.
    I can assure you that that will never happen.
     
  15. Osaban

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    Hate is a strong emotion not usually associated with software. My gripe with MS is the newly introduced forced updates, particularly with Windows 10 home. With the Pro edition one can defer 'Upgrades' why not extend it to home editions as well?

    As far as privacy is concerned MS is late to the party: Google, Facebook have been banking on it for years, a shift in the business model for MS, you get it free but some info will be used for marketing. This is of course not an ideal situation, but people should worry when they use their smartphone, a phone call is an open book nowadays. As many suggest, Linux is a good alternative if you are concerned.

    I also agree about Windows 10, once properly installed, it is a great OS, very fast and efficient...
     
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  16. Umbra

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    they don't have to , your government did it for you lol
     
  17. TheWindBringeth

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    I think the vast majority of households have one or more members that insist on using software/devices that are a threat to privacy. Unfortunately, that can put everyone in the household at risk. Fortunately, you realize you have a problem and are trying to manage it.

    Theoretically, their devices could expose information collected from your LAN, and/or WiFi devices, and/or other wireless devices, and/or microphone, and/or camera, and/or other sensors, and/or files and storage devices they can access, and/or other peripherals they can access, and/or communications you send them, and/or accounts they are allowed to access, and/or information they enter into their devices. That information could be exfiltrated via your Internet connection, but depending on the context possibly also a cell network and/or open hotspot within range of your home and/or other network they connect to when they take their device somewhere else and/or a portable storage device they take with them.

    My feeling is that compartmentalization techniques are truly necessary to protect family information in today's environment, but that alone isn't enough. I think you must also impose some restrictions on devices and how they are used. As in take steps to assure that the devices your family members use meet some basic standards and are configured as safely as possible. Plus, also establish rules on what usage is/isn't acceptable. Cooperation from the spouse is critical since they will usually want/need some way to access sensitive information. Maybe an adult child too if they play an important role. Other particularly younger children should be easier to keep away from sensitive data, but they may be the greatest risk in terms of uploading audio/pics/movies from within the home and just running their mouth. If there is someone who demands an Internet connected console or SmartTV or other device that poses its own risks, perhaps that device can be put on its own network, policed via gateway, and kept in a room where it can do the least harm.
     
  18. zapjb

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    In ~30yrs anybody who cares about privacy will be dead or senile. Time is running out.
     
  19. Umbra

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    unless you are 100% sure that your ISP doesn't peeps and records your traffic datas , expecting and talking about real privacy is pointless.

    Anyway , we all know that ISPs will fight government and suffer heavy sanctions just to protect you , a monthly 30usd customer, right? /sarcasm
     
  20. Minimalist

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    ISPs store a lot of data but most privacy conscious user would use VPNs, TOR and similar. Gathering data on OS level is much more difficult to thwart. Especially when OS maker circumvents their own network protection mechanisms just to get to collected data.
     
  21. ProTruckDriver

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    That's me! :eek: :argh:
     
  22. Umbra

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    The real questions is what kind of datas would be hurtful to you if gathered by MS...
     
  23. Minimalist

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    That's hard to tell since I don't know everything they are collecting and how they will use it. So instead of trying to figure it out and watching for constant changes to their privacy statement, I prefer not to share data or share as little as possible.
     
  24. Umbra

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    Exactly, it is what i do too; it is the user responsibility to share sensitive infos as little as possible , on their smartphone, computer, or any devices.
     
  25. shadek

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    Too true. You better just jump on the train and and make sure you have nothing to hide.
     
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