There is no fix for Intel’s crashing 13th and 14th Gen CPUs — any damage is permanent

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  1. ronjor

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    Much thanks for this article.

    I have been exploring the purchase of a new Intel based desktop/workstation and had no idea there were issues with 13th/14th gen. processors.
     
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    You are very welcome. I was unaware too.
     
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    Always look at the bright side of things. Maybe finally old saying
    will go away?
     
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    Wasn’t that IBM instead of Intel in the original saying?
     
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    Yes, and latest iteration probably was
    :rolleyes:
     
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    If you get into 'The Verge' article, the current Intel recommended mitigation is;
    The problem is OEM manufacturers such as Dell, etc. might have modified/locked down these same settings from modification.

    Finally, postings on the web note Intel’s default performance profile turns the PC into a "turtle."
     
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    If I understand correctly this only works before suspectible processor is damaged. If damage already occured then you ended up with damaged processor that will crash randomly. Maybe with mitigation you will not damage it further so you will avoid even more restart and crashes but still processor is damaged.
    If you think damage didn't occured yet, and can use different computer for time being, I wouldn't even boot that system until mid-august when new microcode is going to be released
     
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    Agreed.

    10char
     
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    Reviewing the video on The Verge article and then going to the Intel web site for confirmation, it's the K and Kx processors that are having this issue.
     
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    very simple: dont buy intel 13/14th, buy ryzen.

    looks like look into the past. intel did brute force overclocking and divided chips that way. similar to now, and got worse again.

    myself has 3 intel machines, older, but working well. but i would buy amd ryzen right now against all odds.
     
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    I haven't watched the video.
    The Verge's article says "Intel Core 13th and 14th Generation desktop processors with 65W or higher base power – including K/KF/KS and 65W non-K variants – could be affected by the elevated voltages issue." So, 65W non-K variants as well.
     
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    Intel issues statement on microcode update that addresses CPU instability and crashing errors — claims patch has negligible performance impacts, future processors not impacted
     
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    Same over here, guess I will switch to AMD now, at least on desktops. How on earth can Intel make such a blunder? First they missed the whole AI hype and now they can't even properly design CPU's? :confused:
     
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    Yes I read about it, but it's not really comparable. Although it's a serious bug in AMD CPU's, it's not easy or likely to be exploited on home user PC's. While this particular Intel CPU bug can seriously impact performance and perhaps even stability, making a PC pretty much useless.
     
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