The House That Spied on Me

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by wshrugged, Feb 13, 2018.

  1. wshrugged

    wshrugged Registered Member

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    by Kashmir Hill and Surya Mattu

     
  2. trott3r

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    Has anyone looked into blocking certain amazon addresses for example in the router for the echo?
     
  3. mirimir

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    Yes, it's disturbing how these devices phone home. Part of it is collecting data to assess usage and for debugging. Plus data that they can sell. And partly it's to simplify remote user access from multiple devices. Because many ISPs don't allow servers on residential accounts, and because most users aren't up for configuring stuff. The company's servers can establish connections to devices, and users can access through them. But then, companies can see everything. It's a mess.
     
  4. Reality

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    That's precisely why I avoid like the plague anything with "smart" in front of it. This wholesale rape of peoples privacy WILL have consequences far more serious than the usual endless excuses like "it's to improve our products" or "give you a better experience" . People have to be in a seriously brain dead stupor not to have seen this freight train coming straight for them YEARS AGO. When companies can see "everything" and most people don't care, you know we're in serious trouble.
     
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    It's worse than Orwell's 1984. Instead of others tattling on us, we tattle on ourselves. Partly because it's impossible to opt out entirely from pulling down your pants to do business let alone one's "private" life.
     
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    It is class warfare, but nobody gets it.
     
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    Same over here, I can't believe that people are so dumb. The only thing I connect to the internet is my desktop, smartphone and laptop. It's a shame that even on these devices you're being spied on by the OS and apps.
     
  8. Peter2150

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    No one the question, but I block those sites with NoScript
     
  9. mirimir

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    Not NoScript, I think. Or even firewalls running on PCs. Because the Echo doesn't connect through a PC, but directly through the router. So you'd need to block IPs there.
     
  10. wshrugged

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    Yep, it is a mess. I don't see a way out of it at this point. Customers seem to be accepting of this explicitly or because of choosing to not think of it at all. Even if/when an easy to use device/software becomes available for customers to monitor activity, a company, rightfully so, will strive to disallow decryption of their proprietary property.

    Eventually, 'smart' things will likely become the standard way things are available. One might have to pay a premium to get ‘stupid’ things, if they’re available at all.
     
  11. mirimir

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    I do that already for computers, using just Core 2. And for cars, using pre-telemetry models.
     
  12. Reality

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    That's what I'm doing as well - whoever would've thought someone elses throwaway computer could be so valuable :)

    Why Core2's?
     
  13. mirimir

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    Indeed. And they're inexpensive. Also relatively untraceable, if you buy at yard sales or swap meets, and pay cash.
    Pentiums would arguably be the safest. But they're too slow. Quad-core Core 2 are fast enough, and not that much slower than the i series. Back in the Core 2 era, Intel put its remote-access stuff in Xeons.
     
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