The future of Windows 10

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  1. emmjay

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    Metered Connections in Windows 10 Creators Update Will Not Block All Windows Update Downloads


    http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/...te-will-not-block-all-windows-update-download
     
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    So with each new release they disable one option that prevents auto updating of system? Great. :rolleyes:
     
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    Hope even the 'Defer' option in Pro will not be removed at some point ...
     
  4. Umbra

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    i think paid versions will be spared.
     
  5. summerheat

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    But you are aware that Mainstream Support for Windows 8 ends on Jan. 9, 2018? Extended Support which provides security updates is available till Jan. 2023, though. Btw, for Windows 7 Mainstream Support ended in Jan. 2015 already, and Extended Support is available till Jan. 2020.

    So you better get rid of Windows. I doubt that things will improve. Most non-Wilders users simply don't care.
     
  6. Adric

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    Your next machine may have hardware that will not let you install W7/ W8. That seems to be Intel's and Microsoft's plan at the moment. Windows 10 everywhere.
     
  7. Rasheed187

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    I don't care about that, I also managed to stay safe on an unpatched Win XP machine for years, which is way less secure than Win 8 out of the box. I also don't see myself switching to another OS like Ubuntu or Mac OS. I have once worked on a Mac for a couple of hours, what a nightmare.
     
  8. roger_m

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    I agree. In my opinion it is really badly designed, and any Microsoft operating system from Vista onwards is far superior.
     
  9. Umbra

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    That is why Windows is the main Home User OS; because it is easy to use. Perfect? far from it but until someone designed a safer, more user-friendly OS compatible with all hardwares, i don't see MS falling soon.
     
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    I guess the same would be said about Windows by a Linux or Mac user. ;) It probably depends on what you're used to.
     
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    Exact ,comparisons can only be made by someone using both in a daily basis for several months.

    I used both Linux and Windows; and i can tell safely that Windows is better in usability.
     
  12. summerheat

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    It's the other way round for me. Each to his own.
     
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    Disagree.

    Windows is the most common desktop OS because Microsoft is a predatory monopoly that forced all competitors out of business. It is far worse than the "robber baron" monopolies like Standard Oil that existed in the early 1900s. The U.S. government should have broken up Microsoft when it had the opportunity.
     
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    Even though Windows is the number 1 operating sys for home users, it also the number 1 OS for business. BUT if the word could get out to home users the new Linux distros are easy for home user, things would be different. However as far as business IT people do not know how to incorporate Linux systems in everyday use. Example as sending packages via UPS ect ect ect. And so Home users could benefit but buisnesses are still dependent on Windows. so is most government agencies. If I can teach my 67 year old sister how to use a Linux distro which has no computer knowledge, any home user can use it if all they do is check email and facebook
     
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    I think it mostly comes down to personal preference. I really hate using OS, because of how its designed, not because I've been using Windows for 25+ years, and OS X is different. But obviously, some people are going to think differently and prefer the design of OS X to Windows.
     
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    This is another matter. you can't say Linux is easier to use. With Windows you won't need to launch cmd to do some admin tasks. On Linux, Terminal (and all it implies) is a "must be learned" , and it rebukes most of the people i tried to convert to Linux. And those people aren't Average Joe.

    Linux is the most widest OS ever, you find it everywhere (servers, IoT, automated robots, etc...), problem is that Linux needs a longer learning curve, i did a test with some totally computer illiterate friends (they never touched a computer before), put in front of them both Linux (ubuntu) and Windows (Win7). then i observe them toying with both... guess which OS my friends were able to launch a browser and start surfing...?
    and i asked them which one they prefer, all said Windows...

    Now i don't say Linux sucks, i love it , i just have a Nvidia driver issue with my actual machine so i can't fully enjoy Linux.
     
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    Which "Linux" are you referring to? When it comes to usability, the Desktop Environment is the crucial factor. And as you know, there are plenty of them for Linux. Some users prefer Gnome, some KDE Plasma, Xfce etc. You can choose whatever suits you best. On Windows, you have no choice at all.

    That's an exaggeration. Most things can be done in Linux with graphical applications. For example, my wife has been using a Linux distro (with KDE) for many years - and she hasn't seen the console even from afar.
    Yes, power users need the console. On the other hand, most things are configured in easy to read text files while Windows has millions of cryptic registry entries. Hence, it's debatable what's really easier to manage.

    Btw, that Windows is the no. 1 OS is not really surprising. The Wintel duopoly has made sure in the past 30 years that it has been installed by default on nearly every (personal) computer sold on this planet.
     
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    Mint or Ubuntu , the mot usable one.
    I used almost all of them with almost all DE ; I prefer Kubuntu personally; love the customization options.

    And i guess you are the one, maintaining the OS, right?
    I was in the same situation as you, i setup Linux Kubuntu for my ex-gf , she didn't need me for her basic daily uses, but when some advanced tasks were required, she was lost and needed my help.
    It is what i meant by usability, not just clicking shortcuts and browsing, but installing/removing softs, cleaning/updating/upgrading the OS is part of the usability and Linux is behind Windows (but i admit the gap is not big as before.)

    You don't need the registry to manage Windows, you need terminal to do admin tasks on Linux. That is my point.

    Honestly, if i didn't have some damn drivers issues with Linux and won't need MS Office, i surely would be on Kubuntu right now.

    Indeed, i can't deny that fact. In fact the monopoly started with IBM , MS won the offer; then MS DOS was on every machine. No other PC oriented OS made it through for long time, and Linux came too late.
     
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    Yes, I am ;) But quite frankly, there is hardly anything to do. Besides, me maintaining the OS would also be necessary if she were using Windows.:D

    And she doesn't have problems to do advanced stuff on Windows? :cautious: In this case she shouldn't have problems to update her Linux system or add/remove applications with, e.g., Synaptic, either.

    Which admin tasks on Linux are you referring to? If you want to update your system or want to change something in the KDE system settings which requires root, you usually get a sudo prompt. So the console is nowadays only rarely needed unless you're doing rather specific stuff. Most things can be done via the GUI.

    What I meant regarding the registry: As a power user you can change settings in Linux mostly by editing text files, in Windows often by manipulating the registry which is considerably less intuitive, IMHO.
     
  20. Umbra

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    hahaha i understand you very well ;)

    she can with windows, but found it more complicated with Linux...

    mostly for that, terminal is more intimidating to users. i saw many of them being afraid of wrongdoing. Typing code lines is less intuitive that clicking buttons.

    You are right on that. I wonder what happened in Bill Gates' mind to create that horrible thing...
     
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