The future of Firefox Add-ons - Nope

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  1. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    Let us be sad together. We do that by me writing and you reading this important article about the future of Firefox and its add-ons, following official announcement on the Mozilla blog, discussing past decisions, market share and trends, user loyalty, and more. Peace.

    http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/firefox-addons-future.html


    Cheers,
    Mrk
     
  2. amarildojr

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    That was a very good read. It actually makes a lot of sense and made me confused at the same time. I will definitely read it again.

    But there is a problem: saying that Debian has 0% of the enterprise market share. Where did you get that number?
    Debian is used at ~32% of Lnux webservers. RedHat is used in 4%, and SuSE is 1%. http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all

    Now, I know this isn't an exact measure of what "enterprise" is supposed to mean, but let's say "enterprise" means "general company/business, regardless if it has a webserver". How would you get the 0% number?
     
  3. DOSawaits

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    Very good reading, but for me, it ain't that much the extensions, since most of them are now available on Chrome too, more important is the bookmarks sidebar, the options to tinker to your liking in about:config and the (misleading) fact that Mozilla has no connections to any multinational linked institution and probably is a little more privacy-friendly. I recently started to watch some Mozillian conferences and the like on https://air.mozilla.org/ and I started to understand the reason why people are leaving Firefox, and rather give up on their privacy than being more and more saddened with each and every FF release.
     
  4. Joxx

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    Good article.
     
  5. Nebulus

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    Excellent article, thank you very much! :thumb:
     
  6. Mrkvonic

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    Amarildojr, what I mean is for big companies, who actually need long term support and stability, there are only two choices. Red Hat and SUSE. The rest is just for games. Yes, Ubuntu is making progress, and you will find in many small companies community distros, including CentOS, Debian and Fedora, but if you're into churning billions, then you will go the enterprise version way with SLES and RHEL.

    Mrk
     
  7. amarildojr

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    So you made that 0% out of thin air? ;)
     
  8. Mrkvonic

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    No, I did not. It's based on my experience with big companies and market. There might be a few servers here and there, but meh.
    Mrk
     
  9. accessgranted

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    Any practical way for us Firefox lovers to try and bend Mozilla's arm by showing our displeasure with their strategy? Some kind of concerted petition maybe, so as to make them change course and get back to some reasonable level of reason before it's too late?
     
  10. Joxx

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    Yes, move to Palemoon.
     
  11. Mrkvonic

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    Find a new sustainable product that works and move. The same way it happened with IE and early FF 0.X builds.
    Mrk
     
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    Tell me it isn't so ... :'(
     
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    The problem is that no such product exists anymore.
     
  16. USAAlone

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    Hi,

    Firefox votes on Majorgeeks is about 50. Used to be so many votes years ago.
     
  17. The Red Moon

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    How does that figure equate to Majorgeeks website visitors over a certain period of time..?
    Maybe site visitors have dropped and this may explain the figure of 50.
     
  18. accessgranted

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    Any suggestion as to such a product at the moment?
     
  19. Holysmoke

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    hopefully ublock origin will work on chromium for a long time. in advanced mode it is hard to beat
     
  20. RJK3

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    I'm genuinely convinced that Google has been pulling the strings all along to influence Mozilla to make these self-destructive decisions.

    Best thing I ever did on the browser front was jump onto Pale Moon.
     
  21. quietman

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    [QUOTE="DOSawaits, post: 2520719, member: 91173" the options to tinker to your liking in about:config and the (misleading) fact that Mozilla has no connections to any multinational linked institution and probably is a little more privacy-friendly.[/QUOTE]

    .... my edit above ....

    Yes to all of that !

    FF has been my browser of choice with Windows for many years now ( and Iceweasel in Linux ) .

    I've used Palemoon "on the side" for most of this year , but I admit I use it mainly as an internet radio with constant tabs for my
    favorite stations .... haven't really played around with it's settings that much .... but I'm about to start :shifty:

    I'm now going to switch those roles around .... FF will be demoted to just my "radio".

    I think that Firefox has been "on the slide " for quite a while , in the ethics department , ....
    ..... and it is a slippery slope !
     
  22. accessgranted

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    Is PaleMoon a fully forked project or is it still based and dependent on Mozilla's source code? If the latter, then it won't escape the Google/Webkit switch.
     
  23. PallMall

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    Nice article, slightly simplistic. But the basics are always worth being explained and/or reminded.

    As for Firefox, the browser, its add-ons, what most frightens me is not the change itself in the construction frames but the fact these frames might limit the power, the "active zone" of the extensions to come. Up to now Firefox add-ons could perform practically anything. I've read that this power would no longer be that of Firefox's add-ons once their ad-equation to Chrome standards in place. If so, and if the Pale Moon browser maintained itself at that time, I might very well consider returning to that past adventure.

    Opera browser did it (identity loss for the sake of what exactly?), Firefox is bound to betray itself as well. I won't cry because I'm basically optimistic, should it be for the sole reason that the best is always to come. Who knows what tomorrow will be made of, browsers included? Some say that complaining isn't worth it if not constructive. Not sure. people have to be happy with a product otherwise it's a failure. Complaining is essential, when free of demagogy. And we are many to complain of what Firefox announces for its management of add-ons.
     
  24. accessgranted

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    I tend to agree with you on that.
     
  25. accessgranted

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    What gecko browser is there left besides FFox if any? Any good one with a foreseeable future?
     
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