The Creator of Linux on the Future Without Him

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  1. Ocky

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    i dont think linux is anti-capitalist but i wouldnt mind seeing them charge say $10 for each variant. PartedMagic seems to be doing ok.
     
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    I am quite sure if commercial closed source software could be decompiled and the source code scrutinized we would find a lot of code taken from open source linux projects.
     
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    I'm not an American, so many of these capitalist/anti-capitalist debates have no cultural relevance to me and make practically no sense. It is worth pointing out however, that Mark Shuttleworth (SA/UK joint citizenship), is an entrepreneur and hardly what one could term 'anti-capitalist'. He has made Canonical (and Ubuntu) probably the most successful distro on the planet. He is also committed to keeping Ubuntu freeware. There is a principle in keeping Linux distros freeware and it isn't necessarily 'anti-capitalist'.
     
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    I find no relevance in the capitalism debate either. But the story is decent.
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    i dont care about capitalism/anti but seems reasonable to me to charge a little bit for linux. might help improve the product too. (not sure what being an American has to do with it - is the rest of the world anti-capitalism?)
     
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    Ostensibly it might seem like a decent idea, but it defeats one of the primary ideas behind Linux, which has other solutions to funding.

    Yet this is not an issue with Ubuntu, thus rendering the argument rather redundant.

    I only emphasised the fact that I am not an American to try to clarify my point of view. In fact, I live in the country that produces Ubuntu. There are obviously differences between cultures and many capitalism/anti-capitalist debates don't or won't have the same relevance or frames of reference to me. I think Shuttleworth has done an incredible job in developing Ubuntu and he has stated that he wants it to be freeware. He's hardly anti-capitalist but he is an idealist. I think the distinction has to be clarified.

    I don't know if the latter part of your sentence is a rhetorical question or not. As I can't speak for the 'rest of the world' I'll decline to comment or attempt to answer your question.
     
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    To put Open-Source in terms of Capitalism/Anti-Capitalism is to have not a faint idea of what Capitalism is.
    We are surrounded by stupidity, we're drowning in it... God help.
     
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    who's that in you avatar Dave?
     
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    I would think it depends on how you define capitalism. That said, I don't recall the "anti-capitalism" label originating with linux or open source users. If I recall, Microsoft made that claim regarding open source a long time ago along with a few others like socialist software. It appears to have stuck.
     
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    As I said, it is culturally specific. 'Socialist software' sounds to me like a Labour Party manifesto book list guide from the 1970's lol. I think Micro$oft were worried that their hegemony was threatened by Linux and so tried to malign it by associating it with the bogeyman of American tradition. Perhaps someone at Microsoft (I'm talking about you Ballmer) should have gone to see an Arthur Miller play like 'The Crucible'.
     
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    Perhaps he should audition for the 'George' role when they remake it again lol.
     
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