Testing software, Forming Opinions and a Clean Image

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  1. trjam

    trjam Registered Member

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    After all the years of testing products out, it has become very apparent to me the value of starting with a clean image. I have found and tested products, and formed opinions on different products I like and dislike. Most of the time my argument was it was sluggish or just didn't perform as I wished. It finally dawned on me of the importance of installing a product on a clean image.

    When we tests products and uninstall them, it is obvious that junk gets left behind. Most of the time we assume what may remain is totally harmless, but I know now that, even registry entries for unused products can and do play a part on other products installed.

    I am not a geek so specifics I don't have, but I do know that products I have complained about when installed on a clean image, behaved sometimes in a totally different way. What I thought was sluggish became responsive. It doesn't mean it can take a bad product and make it better, but it did teach me that, before forming an opinion on a product and then complaining about it here, it may be my own machines fault and not the product.

    I know now, the importance of testing stuff in a fair environment, for not only myself, but for the vendor also. Just my 2 uneducated cents worth.
     
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    Makes total sense to me. My question is, as someone who knows absolutely nothing about imaging, how do you go about doing this? Where/how would I begin?
     
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    You look where this thread should of been started ;) -
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=97
     
  4. J_L

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    @trjam: Have you looked at virtual machines?
     
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    tobacco is correct. Moved thread to proper forum. Thanks!
     
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    FDISR
    It was all sooo easy way back when. :'( :'(
    Still nothing to get near it.

    Well set-up VMs with plenty of RAM + snapshots ?? maybe next best option.

    ?? Need a dedicated machine with various images of different set-ups to restore.

    Set up multiboot options into different images/OS set-ups/Test beds on one machine ??
    http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm


    Read about Roxio_BOT: ?? Some options there:
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1705645&postcount=9
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=276333&highlight=Roxio

    ...my head hurts...often :argh:
     
  7. trjam

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    I am still lucky to have my FD-ISR. The one pice of software I guard with my life.;)
     
  8. J_L

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    For VM's, just copy the folder. Very easy restoring it.
     
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    @trjam,

    I agree and I believe most of the problems that users reported are due to the users' computer systems themselves. Unless the reported problems can be replicated and reproduced on a number of different systems, they can hardly be classified as a fair problem report.:doubt:

    Sound familiar ?...I started the Opera 10.5 to 10.7 thread and many users reported crashes on their systems and only one of the reported crashes is a genuine bug and even then, the Opera developers were aware and recognize that crash problem very early.:p
     
  10. pandlouk

    pandlouk Registered Member

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    I partially agree. Most of the problems are caused by security software; all those kernel hooks, the services installed as hidden drivers and their pure uninstallers is one of the reasons that made microsoft to introduce PatchGuard on 64bit.

    Panagiotis
     
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