Study reveals Android phones constantly snoop on their users

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  1. mood

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    Study reveals Android phones constantly snoop on their users
    October 12, 2021
    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...droid-phones-constantly-snoop-on-their-users/
    Study: "Android Mobile OS Snooping By Samsung, Xiaomi, Huawei and Realme Handsets"
    (PDF): https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/Android_privacy_report.pdf
     
  2. Rasheed187

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    What else is new, Android and iOS are both crap when it comes to privacy. That's why I have never liked smartphones, I don't feel like I'm in total control. At least on Windows (desktops and laptops) there are plenty of tools to improve security and privacy.
     
  3. Floyd 57

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    The LineageOS thing is completely skewed, the reason LineageOS has google but /e/os doesn't is because LineageOS uses Gapps, so obviously google is gonna collect data, while /e/os uses microG which is a decent replacement but many apps don't work for it so it's more like a huge compromise for privacy rather than straight up "better". Ofc you're free not to flash Gapps or to flash MicroG or whatever u want on LineageOS, but since they recommend Gapps officially that's prob why the researchers used Gapps

    Now if you type Gapps vs MicroG in google u can find a billion information so i won't post that here, but here's what they have to say about this study: https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/q6mnso/android_mobile_os_snooping_by_samsung_xiaomi/
     
  4. Floyd 57

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    And also some more that isn't related to android but since many people are probably wondering about iphone here it is:

    https://www.tomsguide.com/uk/news/android-ios-data-collection
    https://www.tomsguide.com/uk/news/ios-android-app-privacy-parity
    https://www.tomsguide.com/uk/news/bad-ios-android-apps-bowne-dc28
    https://www.tomsguide.com/uk/opinion/your-iphone-is-less-safe-than-it-was-yesterday-and-thats-good

    In fact the harvard study is just a week old so maybe someone can post it as its own thread, i really hate bb code like some plebs from 2005
     
  5. aztony

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    I get what you're saying. But I have come to recognize that in this life, in any aspect, the notion of total control is an illusion.
     
  6. Floyd 57

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    If you use LineageOS without Gapps, you are in total control of privacy
     
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  7. Floyd 57

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    For security, there is many stuff:

    For firewall check this https://www.theunfolder.com/best-free-firewall-for-android/

    Android is waaaaaaaay more secure than windows will ever be. On android 11, every app has many permissions. U can just allow it to access what it needs. On windows? They access whatever they want. Unless u specifically use Sandboxie or smth like that. https://www.wired.com/story/android-11-privacy-and-security-features/ https://www.android.com/android-11/

    each app is isolated from others https://source.android.com/security (click on security overview, security features etc. ) there are so many security stuff if u just read
     
  8. Floyd 57

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    Oh btw here are also more sites for privacy:

    https://www.privacytools.io/
    https://www.privacyguides.org/
    https://techlore.tech/

    i also recommend techlore channel and ofc the subreddits of all those

    And of course for downloading apps https://alternativeto.net/software/android-market/?license=opensource (don't remove the url query)

    I like F-droid and FOSSdroid

    Now idk what google apps u use but for me there is an open source alternative for everything i use, except Maps, because no other map can compare to Google Maps, i use street view and i need it. For youtube there is NewPipe for example which lets you watch youtube but in a better way, since obviously nothing can compare with youtube. If u wanna browse Playstore u can do it with Bluestacks on your pc and then move the apk from pc to android. Really there is an alternative for almost everything just google [name of app] open source alternative and check the websites above
     
  9. Rasheed187

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    I will check out the firewall, but almost all apps need to connect out, so what's the point. And on Windows I have been using sandboxing and ''app permission control'' since 2004, you can use tools like Sandboxie and SpyShelter for this and it's way more advanced than this built-in stuff in crappy Android.

    Total control is perhaps not possible, but I'm sure you know what I mean. On Windows you can at least somewhat block telemetry and tracking from the OS and browsers. On Android and iOS, not so much. I have chosen not to use my mobile phone for anything important like banking and shopping, not even social media.
     
  10. Floyd 57

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    Stop being so paranoid about everything ~Phrase removed~ only thing left to say is that Earth is flat and everything is a conspiracy :p
     
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