Discussion in 'other firewalls' started by neurotic, Dec 10, 2003.

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  1. neurotic

    neurotic Guest,8722338~mode=flat

    I don't get the overall consensus that it is useless and attracts "blackhats" when it is a clear indication a user is covering home plate with a firewall. I don't see the point of exploits either as they are clearly talking about bypassing the whole firewall concept.

    A closed port is a closed port, but I don't see any benefit from orthodox reply.. "keeping the machine oiled" just don't cut it if the machine is a purple people eater.

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  2. LowWaterMark

    LowWaterMark Administrator

    Aug 10, 2002
    New England
    Stealth debates are usually fairly lively and interesting. The thread you linked is no exception. ;)

    I'm not a big proponent of stealth, but I'm not against it either. I happen to run stealthed, but that's only because my firewall of choice doesn't offer any other option. I run Zone Alarm Pro. With ZAP, if it blocks something, any type of packet at all, then it drops it and suppresses any type of reply, which of course is stealth.

    If Zone Alarm had a configuration option that would allow me to change it's functionality from dropping all unsolicited packets to rejecting them, (for example, respond as if a port that is actually open on my system were closed instead), then I'd probably set that option.

    In that DSLR thread I think someone said "Just say no the stealth!" Well, that's fine but I rather think the ship has sailed on that one. Most of the more popular software firewalls for Windows systems provide stealth functionality exclusively now. The user doesn't get a choice, so I doubt that stealth will be going away anytime soon.
  3. gkweb

    gkweb Expert Firewall Tester

    Aug 29, 2003
    FRANCE, Rouen (76)
    it isn't a consensus.

    If you know what you do, then there is advantages.
    If don't know and are using a feature that you don't understand, you can be in trouble having a false feeling of security while helping worm and crackers.

    The fact that many only see the second point and it IS always like that and so stealth is useless is a proof that they are against stealth and that's all.

    the difference is that i am for stealth, but i'm not narrow minded and i admit their argues toward "avereage user" is true, so at the end i see that both sides argue are good.
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