Skylake users given 18 months to upgrade to Windows 10 - arstechnica

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  1. zapjb

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    http://arstechnica.com/information-...ers-given-18-months-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/

    "If you own a system with an Intel 6th generation Core processor—more memorably known as Skylake—and run Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, you'll have to think about upgrading to Windows 10 within the next 18 months. Microsoft announced today that after July 17, 2017, only the "most critical" security fixes will be released for those platforms and those fixes will only be made available if they don't "risk the reliability or compatibility" of Windows 7 and 8.1 on other (non-Skylake) systems....."


    It feels likes M$ is getting away with murder. Disgusting!
     
  2. Kerodo

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    Yep, of course they are trying to. They were even going to try to force 10 upgrades on corporate/business users until people screamed enough I guess, and they backed off. It's really pretty outrageous and inexcusable that their business practices have degenerated to this point that we are seeing now. But who can stop them? There needs to be a BIG alternative to change things, and that takes a lot of $$$ and someone with the desire to do it.
     
  3. amarildojr

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    In my opinion Microsoft got a bit interested in Linux's market share when Steam came for us. So when they said they would give out Windows 10 for free, I wouldn't think this decision would go further than a "we're afraid of Linux" thing since they could be afraid of losing a tiny bit of marked share.

    But this is going too far. If Windows 7 is still supported until 2020, why would they force some users into upgrading to 10? These security fixes should come to Windows 7 users as well.

    To me, Microsoft looks like that evil grandma in the woods: first she attracts you into her home with the promise of free and good "mimma food" (MS's free upgrade), then they finish you off (with privacy invations, user control violations, making the old system insecure... literaly forcing a good portion of their users to use their new system.. Windows' users can only imagine what are MS's plans with these actions).
     
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    There was a point where I actually loved Microsoft. I had Windows 95, then 98SE, then XP. Microsoft developed/publised good games too, like the classic Age of Empires, or the Flight Simulator series.

    To be honest I don't know what happened to the corporation, but I really dislike them nowadays. I can only look at the past and remember all the fun I had with Windows, some Microsoft games, and a time of no-worries. Oh those good times where I'd spend the entire night playing at lanhouses hehehehe.
     
  5. Kerodo

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    My best MS days were when I ran Win 2000. I had more fun in those days than I've ever had on my systems. The bad stuff with MS began with Win 8 IMO. That's when they started with their current "agenda" and began disregarding what the user wanted and started down that wrong road that 10 continues today. Desperation (of some sort) leads them to force 10 on as many users as possible. How it all works out will probably be seen during this year 2016 (I think). We shall see...
     
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    I really don't remember them ever being that different. Windows 98 brought on the whole Internet Explorer controversy and eventually spurred the development of Firefox and Chrome after Netscape was killed and IE ruled the browser market. They've always had a combination of aggressive business practices and bloated software that needs everything your computer can give it. Microsoft has always been interested in its bottom line more than anything else. This is the corporation that invented modern software licensing. They're kind of like "Little Joe" in the Lou Reed song who "never once gave it away, everybody had to pay and pay."
     
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    I'm ****** no agency, government or class action is challenging this BS.
     
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    I also loved the days of Windows 2000 and XP, I still remember getting my first Windows 2000 laptop that was a Dell it was powerful and hardly ever a error it had, I had to bare running Windows 8.1 for 3 years I wish I ran something else then, I loved the Midtown Madness games Microsoft produced they were so much fun I even played the Xbox version on my old Xbox.
     
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    We will probably see more changes to their support life cycle and I really doubt that Windows 7 will be supported till 2020.
     
  10. Martin_C

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    This thread made me laugh.

    Once again, we witness the Wilders crowd who go on and on about "the good old days" with your 10-15 year old hardware that you are still clinging on to today, and memories of happy times with 15-20 years old OS editions.

    Well, the reason why those days are nicer to think about for you, are because those days are from back BEFORE you got grumpy.

    I'm sure that there was also a grumpy crowd at the town square who looked at those crazy new automobiles and shook their heads while stating that everything was better with their trusted old horse and carriage.

    They would never do the upgrade, they said, while patting each other on the back.

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    As for the blog post from Microsoft - apparently the journalist and the posters in this thread didn't read it properly (or at all)

    The blog post from Microsoft states that to ensure a smooth transition to new hardware in the enterprise, Microsoft will work closely with OEM partners to ensure the Win7 and Win8.1 works on 6th generation Intel CPUs (Skylake) in the next 18 months.

    This is EXTRA work for Microsoft and the OEM partners.

    Nobody is taking anything away or shortening anything.

    Win7 and Win8.1 and the old driver and firmware models are not designed for the new hardware interfaces.

    This blog post is not aimed at Joe Average, who has a single PC.

    This is aimed mainly at enterprise.

    In the enterprise, every sys.admin with respect for him-/herself are already vetting their mission critical applications on Windows 10 in order to ensure a smooth mitigation when rolling out Windows 10.

    At the same time every IT division knows that all the huge security improvements introduced in Windows 10 are in some cases stronger on latest generation hardware and in some cases they are completely depending on latest generation hardware to be functional.

    This means making budget decision on new purchases.

    Now with this blog post, the enterprise knows that they can begin buying and using the latest generation hardware AND have their current OS work.
    And when all mission critical applications are vetted, they can then begin rolling out Windows 10.

    This is exactly the smooth transition, that are needed in the enterprise.

    Microsoft are not taking anything away or shortening anything.
    They are ADDING work for themselves and OEM partners, to assist the enterprise.

    And Microsoft are not taking compatibility away for anyone.
    Windows 10 will continue to work on older hardware.

    Finally Microsoft are just stating that in the future, new and as of writing unreleased hardware will only be supported on latest Windows edition.

    They will not waste development resources on implementing support in Win7 or Win8.1, for a CPU released after Skylake.

    All in all, nothing to worry about for home users.
    And to the enterprise, it's a big help.
     
  11. Mrkvonic

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    Have to agree, this is a typical much-ado-about-nothing article. New processors come with new extensions and features not supported in the Win7/8.1 range of kernels. To be able to use them, you need a new OS. Much like RHEL 5/6/7, SLES 10/11/12 and so forth. Nothing special here and perfectly acceptable. Plus, it is a well known fact Win7 will be getting only security fixes from 2015 till 2020. That has always been Microsoft product life cycle. Again, nothing of interest.

    Mrk
     
  12. Brummelchen

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    i read that rushing blog some minutes ago elsewhere - some grain of truth but no more. in some parts make me lough, eg "30x better graphics"
    30 times sharper pixels? do i need sunglassees from then?

    only to blame MS themselves with windows 10 again, Windows 7 is up to 2020 and Windows 8 up to 2023 with patches. who cares about 10?
    2020 is in 4 years, thats a galaxy of options for newer or other OS.

    if MS has fixed the important issues in win10 then it may be usable, same as usaual, any windows is fine after service pack 1 :D
     
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    I absolutely have that same feeling regarding Windows 2000. I miss those good old days. The days of legitimate service packs and much more.
     
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    I loved win3.1, 95/98, and xp. Midway through 7 things started going sour in more ways than one.
     
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    I still have a DOS partition but it isn't used much. Win10 for me.
     
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    Rose-tinted spectacles anyone?
     
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