Service Meant to Monitor Inmates’ Calls Could Track You, Too

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by hawki, May 11, 2018.

  1. hawki

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    "Thousands of jails and prisons across the United States use a company called Securus Technologies to provide and monitor calls to inmates. But the former sheriff of Mississippi County, Mo., used a lesser-known Securus service to track people’s cellphones,... without court orders, according to charges filed against him in state and federal court...

    The service can find the whereabouts of almost any cellphone in the country within seconds...

    Securus offers services only to law enforcement and corrections facilities,...

    Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat of Oregon, wrote in a letter this week to the Federal Communications Commission that Securus confirmed that it did not 'conduct any review of surveillance requests.' The senator said relying on customers to provide documentation was inadequate. 'Wireless carriers have an obligation to take affirmative steps to verify law enforcement requests,' he wrote, adding that Securus did not follow those procedures.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/10/...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
     
  2. mirimir

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    And that's why we don't use cellphones for sensitive stuff :)

    Or at most, burner phones, which have never been active within a few hundred km of our home, work, friends, etc.
     
  3. longshots

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    You know that, but how many others do?
    How often have we seen [in movies - which as we all know depicts real life] carry their burner next to their personal phones.
    Or even worse, switch sim cards in a phone and think that they're safe.
    I don't think the percentage of people who know how to use a burner correctly is much more than 5%, and many of the people using this website make up a large percentage of that.
    Maybe even more now that they've read this.
     
  4. mirimir

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    Isn't it just basic logic?

    A corollary is that you can't even charge a burner phone at home etc. You can only charge remotely.

    Back when I was using burner phones, I stored them in an old steel paint can. Cleaned up, of course, on the inside, to avoid leaks around the top. But very cruddy on the outside. Packed with rags, to prevent rattling. In the trunk, with tools and stuff.
     
  5. Circuit

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    Land lines forever.
    Defiantly can live with out a "dumb" (cell) phone.
     
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  7. mirimir

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    No, just a cruddy old paint can. To match other stuff in my trunk.
     
  8. hawki

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    "US cell carriers are selling access to your real-time phone location data

    The company embroiled in a privacy row has "direct connections" to all major US wireless carriers, including AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint -- and Canadian cell networks, too.

    Four of the largest cell giants in the US are selling your real-time location data to a company that you've probably never heard about before.
    In case you missed it, a senator last week sent a letter demanding the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) investigate why Securus, a prison technology company, can track any phone "within seconds" by using data obtained from the country's largest cell giants, including AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint, through an intermediary, LocationSmart..."

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/us-cell-carriers-selling-access-to-real-time-location-data/
     
  9. ronjor

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    Hacker Breaches Securus
     
  10. ronjor

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    https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/05...obile-carriers-in-real-time-via-its-web-site/
     
  11. mirimir

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    https://www.robertxiao.ca/hacking/locationsmart/
     
  12. RockLobster

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    This is a very interesting conversation...

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17081684
     
  13. hawki

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    "...Calls on FCC Chairman to Recuse Himself From Phone-Tracking Investigation...

    The Federal Communications Commission referred the phone-tracking matter, which involves Securus, an inmate calling service, to its enforcement bureau on Friday. The FCC chairman, Ajit Pai, represented Securus while employed at law firm Jenner & Block, LLP, just prior to his confirmation as an FCC commissioner in 2012..."

    https://gizmodo.com/sen-wyden-calls-on-fcc-chairman-to-recuse-himself-from-1826154763
     
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    Why Is Your Location Data No Longer Private?
    https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/05/why-is-your-location-data-no-longer-private/
     
  16. guest

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    Another Prison Phone Service Caught Recording Privileged Conversations And Passing Them On To Law Enforcement
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  17. guest

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    I Gave a Bounty Hunter $300. Then He Located Our Phone
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    Senator Wyden goes ballistic after US telcos caught selling people's location data yet again
    January 8, 2019
    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/01/08/telcos_customer_tracking_sales/
     
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    Sprint To Stop Selling Location Data to Third Parties After Motherboard Investigation
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  21. guest

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    Data Broker That Sold Phone Locations Used by Bounty Hunters Lobbied FCC to Scrap User Consent
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    Hundreds of Bounty Hunters Had Access to AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint Customer Location Data for Years
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    AT&T accused of selling customers’ location data to bounty hunters and stalkers
    July 18, 2019
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/news/att-accused-of-sharing-customers-location-data/
    EFF: EFF Sues AT&T, Data Aggregators For Giving Bounty Hunters and Other Third Parties Access to Customers’ Real-Time Locations
     
  25. guest

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    AT&T Says Customers Can’t Sue the Company for Selling Location Data to Bounty Hunters
    Due to the contract fine print, AT&T says customers must instead deal with the company privately rather than in court
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    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...ation-selling-location-data-to-bounty-hunters
     
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