Self destructing cookies

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by popcorn, Feb 25, 2013.

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  1. popcorn

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  2. happyyarou666

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    nice little addon ive added it , any others suggested? , thou ive noticed its quite annoying with beef taco opt out addon , since it sets 100s of permanent opt out cookies , making the popup show every few secs , lols, should i trash beef taco then , btw i use the also excellent addon called cslite mod
     
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  3. happyyarou666

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    well how bout a damned reply here popcorn , lols -.-
     
  4. popcorn

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    Hey
    sorry I totally missed your reply :blink:
    I have just discovered Collusion for chrome, it has much more functionality than the FF version
    I have kinda reduced the add ons I use in FF (well Cyberfox) as I only run it virtual I don't need secure deletion and flash/ever cookie cleaners or blockers.
    I still use Ghostery and Add block and of course NoScipt ;)
    I like self destructing cookies as it cleans virtually real time - I have it sec to delete after 3 sec's
    I like Firegloves as it helps lower my panopticlick score
    also HTTPS everywhere and force TLS.
    All pretty standard really

    Sorry again :)

    Edit: I would lose Beef Taco if your using self destructing cookies now, you can only delete them once right and less pop ups is good
     
  5. Tyrizian

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    Thank you popcorn for sharing your discovery with us.

    I shall give this a go later on :thumb:
     
  6. Tyrizian

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    Ok, this addon is definitely a keeper :thumb:
     
  7. happyyarou666

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    thanks exactly what i needed to know :thumb: , guess its time for beef taco to go
     
  8. popcorn

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    It's the cookie add on I have been waiting for:D
     
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    I like how simple, but yet effective it is

    Thanks to you, I finally found the cookie addon that I've been waiting for as well :thumb:

    It's one of those addons that instantly becomes a must have.
     
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  10. happyyarou666

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    ok i just found out that its useless when using private browsing mode since firefox puts all cookies in a temp folder wich gets remove upon restart , hmmm... i guess ill keep it anyhow just for the lulz
     
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    It's handy for (almost :p) realtime deletion during a session.
    private browsing mode is something I don't need when using the browser virtualized, I still tick the right boxes - third party cookies etc but know everything is gone upon a sandbox reset :)
     
  12. happyyarou666

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    its a real dilemma really on one side i really want the realtime deletion , on the other i dont want to miss the private browsing , yes even thou i use it vitualized not sure what to do , damn it
     
  13. Techwiz

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    Interesting add-on. So far I've noted a couple issues, some of which could be resolved with white-listing:

    - screen flickering on flash sites, particularly when transitioning to full screen mode. This has lead to flash content hanging and sometimes lagging to buffer and load content.

    - seems to be some website lag issues. Probably some additional white-listing needed here.

    - It's pop-up window placement is really inconvenient and I don't see an option to relocate the icon to the left bottom in Firefox. I can live with the notifications, but a micro display like the one in VT Hash checker would be more preferable to be honest.

    - It's removal capabilities are questionable. Other cookie managers are still triggering afterwards or upon exit. I'm getting better results by manually purging with better privacy than I am with the automated cookie deletion from SDC.

    I'll do some more testing, but I'm thinking I might be better off just continuing my existing cookie removal routine.
     
  14. happyyarou666

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    by all means report this over at the official addon site , just post as a review so he knows im sure something can be done about this and should , the dev himself seems to be a security advocate here the link

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/self-destructing-cookies/?src=hp-dl-upandcoming


    after disabling private browsing it works a charm, or so i thought , still wont remove cookies after closing all tabs to a site and waiting 3 seconds , not sure about the above issues thou , guess ill just leave private browsing unchecked then with the rest unchecked as usual, but currently i cant get it to work i use cslite cookie manager as well and have cookies and 3rd party cookies unchecked
     
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    @Techwiz

    I see no reason not to use both :) - I also would suggest posting in the review

    @happyyarou666

    I check - Tell websites I don't want to be tracked, accept cookies from sites and Clear history when Cyberfox closes are the only boxes I tick, even though when the sandbox is reset Clear history when Cyberfox closes becomes unnecessary it feels better ;)
     
  16. popcorn

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    I would check Accept cookies from sites I would expect less sites to break with cookies initially enabled
     
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    Well I left a review for the add-on. Hopefully some of these issues can be resolved easily. I'm pretty sure the white-listing problems could be resolved with a community effort. I'd like to see this add-on developed. At present, I do a lot of browser shut downs and restarts to manage/remove cookies, but being able to automate this kind of removal in real-time is certainly something to appreciate.
     
  18. happyyarou666

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    thanks ill redo my firefox settings i guess then according to your suggestions popcorn, so i asume i dont need cs lite mod no more or what or should i use it with the rest
     
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    I have never used it but you could still employ it to manage the cookies in your whitelist
    I haven't created a whitelist as yet, not even sure I will as I use Lastpass and reset the sandbox at the end of each session it seems pretty pointless lol
     
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    so you say cs lite mod is useless then, i dont want to keep any cookies anyhow , there just supposed to let me log into my forum accounts etc , like one time use cookies or somethin for as long as i have the tab open
     
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    done some thinking about firegloves , after reading about changing the useragent actually making you more unique , anything on this popcorn , your the firegloves specialist , and id asume having fonts being changed every so often will make you more unique as well


    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=342670
     
  22. popcorn

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    I just run it default, only thing I change is the useragent and this only as I use Cyberfox and before this Waterfox, I normally just use a common popular useragent.
    The most recent version seems to break far less sites :thumb:
    I have noticed on chrome where there is no firegloves that by using ScriptSafe with the same useragent I can get equally or even better scores at Panopticlick so go figure.

    Edit: I would always just stick with the default font for this reason.
     
  23. happyyarou666

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    so firegloves is useless , does more harm than good, thanks, btw cyberfoxes fingerprint isnt any different from what regular firefox build is, useragent is best kept at the latest FF version since most people dont use versions older than a year tops anything randomly between those makes you that more unique , best is to leave the useragent alone, here check it out , i use refcontrol , requestpolicy , ghostery, abp including the regular recommended block lists, https everywhere and force tls, these are my addons that stop crosssite tracking or tracking in general


    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0

    panopticlick


    Browser Characteristic bits of identifying information one in x browsers have this value value
    User Agent
    17.48

    183084.8
    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0
    HTTP_ACCEPT Headers
    6.53

    92.72
    text/html, */* gzip, deflate en-US,en;q=0.5
    Browser Plugin Details
    21.39+

    2746272
    Plugin 0: AdobeAAMDetect; A plugin to detect whether the Adobe Application Manager is installed on this machine.; npAdobeAAMDetect64.dll; (AdobeAAMDetect; application/x-adobeaamdetect; ). Plugin 1: Java Deployment Toolkit 7.0.130.20; NPRuntime Script Plug-in Library for Java(TM) Deploy; npDeployJava1.dll; (; application/java-deployment-toolkit; ). Plugin 2: Shockwave Flash; Shockwave Flash 11.6 r602; NPSWF64_11_6_602_171.dll; (Adobe Flash movie; application/x-shockwave-flash; swf) (FutureSplash movie; application/futuresplash; spl).
    Time Zone
    2.45

    5.45
    -60
    Screen Size and Color Depth
    4.71

    26.24
    1920x1080x24
    System Fonts
    21.39+

    2746272
    Marlett, Arial, Arabic Transparent, Arial Baltic, Arial CE, Arial CYR, Arial Greek, Arial TUR, Batang, BatangChe, Gungsuh, GungsuhChe, Courier New, Courier New Baltic, Courier New CE, Courier New CYR, Courier New Greek, Courier New TUR, DaunPenh, DokChampa, Estrangelo Edessa, Euphemia, Gautami, Vani, Gulim, GulimChe, Dotum, DotumChe, Impact, Iskoola Pota, Kalinga, Kartika, Khmer UI, Lao UI, Latha, Lucida Console, Malgun Gothic, Mangal, Meiryo, Meiryo UI, Microsoft Himalaya, Microsoft JhengHei, Microsoft YaHei, MingLiU, PMingLiU, MingLiU_HKSCS, MingLiU-ExtB, PMingLiU-ExtB, MingLiU_HKSCS-ExtB, Mongolian Baiti, MS Gothic, MS PGothic, MS UI Gothic, MS Mincho, MS PMincho, MV Boli, Microsoft New Tai Lue, Nyala, Microsoft PhagsPa, Plantagenet Cherokee, Raavi, Segoe Script, Segoe UI, Segoe UI Semibold, Segoe UI Light, Segoe UI Symbol, Shruti, SimSun, NSimSun, SimSun-ExtB, Sylfaen, Microsoft Tai Le, Times New Roman, Times New Roman Baltic, Times New Roman CE, Times New Roman CYR, Times New Roman Greek, Times New Roman TUR, Tunga, Vrinda, Shonar Bangla, Microsoft Yi Baiti, Tahoma, Microsoft Sans Serif, Angsana New, Aparajita, Cordia New, Ebrima, Gisha, Kokila, Leelawadee, Microsoft Uighur, MoolBoran, Symbol, Utsaah, Vijaya, Wingdings, Andalus, Arabic Typesetting, Simplified Arabic, Simplified Arabic Fixed, Sakkal Majalla, Traditional Arabic, Aharoni, David, FrankRuehl, Levenim MT, Miriam, Miriam Fixed, Narkisim, Rod, FangSong, SimHei, KaiTi, AngsanaUPC, Browallia New, BrowalliaUPC, CordiaUPC, DilleniaUPC, EucrosiaUPC, FreesiaUPC, IrisUPC, JasmineUPC, KodchiangUPC, LilyUPC, DFKai-SB, Lucida Sans Unicode, Arial Black, Calibri, Cambria, Cambria Math, Candara, Comic Sans MS, Consolas, Constantia, Corbel, Franklin Gothic Medium, Gabriola, Georgia, Palatino Linotype, Segoe Print, Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Webdings, standard 07_57, Calibri Light, ChopinScript, ZWAdobeF (via Flash)
    Are Cookies Enabled?
    0.42

    1.33
    Yes
    Limited supercookie test
    3.17

    9
    DOM localStorage: No, DOM sessionStorage: No, IE userData: No


    mind you panopticlick being a joke in itself since its been updated back in 2008 or so , and jondonyms anonymity test only tries to sell its own crapware browser , so yeah there ya have it
     
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  24. popcorn

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    Cyberfox is a relatively new for me I hadn't compared UA's, thanks for that
    Here's my Cyberfox Panopticlick score ;)
     

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    The goal isn't to use a user agent that is unique, but rather to use a user agent that doesn't reveal your current operating system, browser version/type, etc. It should also be kept current as using too old of a user agent string would be revealing. I honestly can't think of why I would need to change it between sites unless I was extremely paranoid. Even then, the number of believable strings is fairly limited between the primary operating systems, browsers, etc. UAControl is perfect for my needs because it allows me to set strings on a site by site basis and apply a false default string for everything else. When using these finger print sites, your goal shouldn't be to show up unique with the lowest score. Instead aim for an average score with a string that is completely bogus.
     
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