Have you though about this: There are security issues with Firefox plugins. Just one example: a QuickTime drive-by issue which means if I open a QT movie on a malicious site and have QT7.1.3, they can execute whatever code they want on my PC (http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/54953.html). This also applies to the QT plugin. I didn't even know I had one (think it was installed by my codec pack, in an obscure folder) If I have a plugin instead of the full app (i e, WMP) I can't access any settings AFAIK so it probably can't check for updates (unless it reads my mind). I imagine the "WMP plugin DLL" must have come bundled with Firefox 2.0. I solved this by specifying only a few, known FULL products (not plugins) in the plugin list (I use JetAudio, Winamp, QT and the Adobe players), and for these I made sure they were set to check for updates often. Which for the Adobe players is done on adobe.com actually (and in 2 different ways..tricky..) Some files are not even handled according to the plugin list - sometimes it's controlled by Windows settings. That's the case for QT, Shockwave and Flash player on my PC now, which are not in the plugin list anymore, but still work.. Anyone else that missed this giant collection of security holes or am I the only one stupid enough?