Security Applications you would like to see in discount

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by Fuzzfas, Jan 15, 2009.

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  1. Fuzzfas

    Fuzzfas Registered Member

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    I think this is getting more importance than it can really have. It's just a forum thread, it's like a wish list, nothing more. Let the addicts dream for a while, no matter how futile that may be. And since it is futile, there is really no reason to take it so seriously as to analyze it.

    Nobody actually expects a vendor to do a discount just because 4 people asked for it. Or nobody will hold a grudge over a vendor if he doesn't make a promo. On the other hand, one can wish... Dreams cost nothing and make people happy. And sometimes, just sometimes, Santa Claus can hear the wish of a security junkie... I for one remember some instances in this forum with a member asking if there was a discount code for a product and the vendor saying him to PM him (now why would he want to PM him?).

    Also, by looking at a wishlist, you can evaluate a tendency amongst potential customers and so plan better a discount day that may have in mind for the future.

    I don't see where's the problem in all this. It's stupid? Fine! The rest can laugh. It's mandatory for the vendor? No, it's not. Actually a vendor can see it as a means of popularity poll or means of marketing planning. Or, as in some cases i 've mentioned, the vendor may also grab the customer, even privately. It HAS happened, both in this forum and in other fora. (You can make a poll about it if you don't believe me, asking "have you ever had a vendor approaching you after a forum request of yours and privately making a "custom" license solution for you? I can name - theoretically, i am not going to really- 2 cases i know of and 1 that i was told of. 2 happened in this forum).

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    In the forum of Donation Coders, this "wishlist" is even "officialised". They have a specific forum section just for that. Then the admins contact the vendors i suppose just to let them know that they are "popular" for discount deal and ask them if they have in mind to accommodate such a deal. This here isn't anywhere near that! It's just an unofficial thread, with no official Wilders' support nor ANY of the partecipants actually EXPECTS a concrete result out of it. So a vendor may read that 3-4 forumers here would like a discount. So what! He can wait until they get tired and buy the entire license. Or, he can view his own plans and make a discount day for example in 3 months from now. Who knows what's in the head of a man! And if nothing of that happens, it's still fun and interesting to see what people would wish for.
     
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  2. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    this forum is biased!
    i dont have any intended program, but deals are always welcome.

    id like to see more lifetime licences available :)
     
  3. ratchet

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    Sheees...I find absolutely nothing negative about this thread. It's just an innocent opinion poll/wish list. What is the harm? If anything, novices like myself may discover what is really important and want to purchase a product!
     
  4. Dark Shadow

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    very well said Fuzzfas
     
  5. blacknight

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    Hi Pete, I don't think that this the focus of the question, and of this thread. All us - or most part of all us - here know that good and excellent software, especially security software, has his price to be developed, to be continued, to be emprouved. All us see excellent software to die, i.e. SSM, PS, Neoava Guard... because they have not commercial and financial feedback and/or because they are one-man-program. I have not problem - I had not problem - to pay to have a program that I like really because it is good.

    But we see also many Majors in this weeks to do special offer: see A-Squared Anti-Malware, Outpost 2009....I think that this 3D is only a poll thinking to these promotions.
     
  6. wideglide36

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    While this thread started out on a lighter note, I do see the point Peter was trying to make.
    Nobody wants to be asked to take less money for their hard earned work.
    I know I wouldn't.
    Here's the problem though, there is a ton of free security products that do almost as much as the products that cost $30 to $40.00.
    They may simply offer a few extra bells and whistles but still do mainly the same thing as the free software.
    The sandboxie deal was my tipping point. I was fine with the free version because I'm cheap and I thought $25 or $30 was a bit expensive for a cheapie like me. So, when they offered it for $14.14 I jumped.

    The makers of these types of software have a balancing act to do if they want to prosper in their businesses given the example I just mentioned.

    Some makers will demand a certain price and won't budge and I think that's fine. It's there business.
     
  7. crofttk

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    Well, Pete, was a member before he was a Moderator, so I don't expect him to be quiet and only moderate. I don't think saying, in effect, "don't hold your breath waiting for this thread to bring prices down" is necessarily out of line or OT although I do see your concern that ANYTHING a moderator says will carry extra weight. Anyways, we've probably beat that issue around enough.

    As far as the topic at hand, I like to see anything discounted, but particularly I wish "household" discounts were more widely offered. It can get expensive when you have multiple machines to maintain. I liked Sandboxie's license terms in that regard and gladly dropped the $30 to install it on as many of my personal household machines as I like.:)
     
  8. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

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    Touche. I just wanted to stir up a bit of thinking. Having done that I leave everyone to enjoy themselves.

    Cheers,

    Pete
     
  9. Fuzzfas

    Fuzzfas Registered Member

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    Peter, let me clarify a bit. I have nothing against you, on the contrary, you are knowledgable and i respect your opinions. I just saw no reason in your initial intervention for such irony... I 've been a moderator too in fora of different nature though and i know how people love to attack the mods often for irrational reasons. In this case, my objection wasn't about what you said, but on how you said it. That's all. I 've flamed too in this forum and got the thread locked once, i m no angel.

    And to add something about your observation about this:

    This thread doesn't "ask" anyone to do something. I don't even know if the vendors mentioned are reading the forum. We 're not on strike or something so to ask or demand. If someone wants to ask a vendor, he can do it much more directly and in more embarassing way for the vendor than to partecipate in a wishlist thread. For example, in SB thread someone directly asked Ilya if he intends to make lifetime licenses. I too had asked Ilya about eventual Xmas discount. It's not the end of the world. People in everyday life, often ask shop keepers when they plan to start discounts or for a discount if they purchase many items. I see software vendors no differently. This thread is actually much milder than similar direct approaches.

    And it isn't about respect towards the author either. It's about each one's wallet and needs. I bought Outpost, Twister, WinPatrol, Sandboxie, Shadow Defender, FD PC Rescue, not because i really needed them, but only because they were either on discount or had a lifetime license. The only 1 year product at full price i bought, was DW, because it was worth it and 1 man projects are worthy of being supported. I 've had several friends grabbing the Sandboxie deal, who normally wouldn't care about it. 2 of them never ran Sandboxie before, i showed it to them a few days before the discount day and they said they understood how it worked and the price was cheap, so that was it. They don't care normally to buy, for the reasons wideglide36 explained... They are on a students budget and buying security applications, while there are so many freeware around, is normally, their last concern... All of them, possibly, after some years will have more money and possibly will care less about discounts, in order to show their respect to the author's work. But not today. :D

    Add to that the economic crisis... At the end of the day, this is a wishlist, with zero to little impact to the plans of a vendor. But if i were a vendor, i wouldn't take offense in it. Probably i would feel flattered. I 'd rather think a way of making these people my clients. In a way or another. Being in a wishlist for discount wouldn't make me feel bad if i don't accomodate their wish. I am a vendor, not their employee, so i decide my price policy, not them. But i 'd keep them in mind as customers that in a way or the other i should take. Actually there would be one Wilders' member that i would take as my customer as soon as possible, no matter how: Kees. (Sorry Kees, i can't write a single line of code, so no luck, it was just a hypothesis). And some others too, for various reasons. I feel cunning thinking about it!
     
  10. ratchet

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    I would say you are a very classy and mature individual! Have a great 2009, ratchet
     
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