SE Labs - Consumer Product Test - April - June, 2018

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  1. itman

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    https://selabs.uk/en/reports/consumers

    OMG! WD beat out Bitdefender It also didn't finish in last place for a change.

    -EDIT- Also notable in this test is WD received a 25/25 on the advanced threats test. Showing if nothing else, Microsoft is quick to adapt to their prior deficiencies in AV lab tests.
     
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  2. Charyb

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    I started using McAfee antivirus a couple months ago and have nothing but good things to say. I'm not certain what changed (maybe cloud?) but I'm satisfied.
     
  3. Gein

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    It sort of makes you wonder if the 30 odd bucks a year is worth spending if defender is getting this good.
     
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    They have a good reason to pocket some impressive stats these days in such tests. They've taken it on the chin for 2 decades and had no other choice.
     
  5. Osaban

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    Norton, Eset, McAfee, have the best results oddly enough they are the ones offering only paid versions, basically you get what you pay for...
     
  6. bigwrench9

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    I totally agree.:thumb:
     
  7. bellgamin

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    Gaaack! Webroot did very very very poorly! I am supremely disappointed. I liked it because it's so light on resources. Evidently it's a tad light on protection, as well. :oops:
     
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    Page 14:

    "Webroot notes that testing occurred before it released its script and antiexploit protection."
     
  9. bellgamin

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    That sounds encouraging. Buried it on page 14, huh?

    If that truly accounts for their bad showing, it's not a big deal for me because I use MalwareBytes Anti-Exploit & NoScript. Even so......:cautious:
     
  10. guest

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    Which doesn't matter at all, the test is about the current version.
    What annoy me with those labs is they don't even mention the samples used (or at least what kind of samples), their age, etc...
     
  11. Rasheed187

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    Yes, very disappointing and how couldn't they block these attacks without script and exploit blocking? At the end of the day you should be able to block malware no matter how it's delivered.
     
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    "To cut SE Labs some slack," I believe this is the first time they have tested Webroot in a comparative. Whether the will provide testing "accommodations" for its unique behavioral detection methods remains to be seen. Most other AV labs do not.
     
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    It's not the first time that SE Labs tested WSA and all the others showed WSA to be very bad which is not the case in anyway.
     
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    Oops. Looks like your correct on that. I honestly never paid any attention to its scoring there.
     
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    Well I look at all tests but with a grain of salt. Real World users would not even come close to coming into contact with 99% of these infections. I'm just speaking the truth as far as I'm concerned but some others think that any of these testings organizations is the word from god. Oh well....
     
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    What I was referring to is that in the Jan - Mar test for this year, WD scored 7/25 in the advanced threats category. Such a dramatic increase in test scoring in this category "smells" of AV lab test gaming where a battery of testers are employed to anticipate what the next like tests will be and create detections for those tests.
     
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    Very interesting reply and I for one am equally just as suspicious just what really surrounds the intentions of such testers, which if true, just blows such a program review straight out the window. Funny money sometimes do strange things but reputations-proven track records that are solid and openly transparent are pretty darn good indicators that hold a lot of weight.

    But I for one consider myself not really as qualified to raise such suspicions without barn burning factual proof. However a real good dose of doubt can be of interest where concerns & comparisons don't exactly meld to results experienced on the local level. :)
     
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    For clarification, it would be Microsoft that is employing a small army of testers. All the AV labs can do to prevent such "gaming" activities is to literally employ new test methods in a given test category for each comparative. For a small AV lab like SE Labs that in reality would be cost prohibitive.
     
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    you people think they need to break a sweat, all it takes is a "donation" towards said review company.
    WD and BD on the same level, give me a **** break
     
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    Bitdefender got dinged on targeted attacks; scoring 21/25. Time for them to also hire an army of testers to game the next test.:D
     
  22. bellgamin

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    Aw, come on mekelek. Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think. :p:thumb:
     
  23. jadinolf

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    Moi aussi,:)
     
  24. Rasheed187

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    I agree with this, but it's still weird that Webroot could not block certain samples, while others could. It's also weird they say it might be caused because the script and exploit-blocker wasn't implemented in this version yet. How long does Webroot exist, couldn't they think of this earlier? For example, Malwarebytes always scores bad in every test, so there must be some truth in this, where's smoke there's probably fire.
     
  25. guest

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    probably because Webroot use its rollback feature extensively, so the malware have to "infect" the system, which obviously is not well perceived by those labs.
     
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