Router and Modem Question

Discussion in 'hardware' started by WilliamP, Sep 26, 2011.

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  1. WilliamP

    WilliamP Registered Member

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    I shut my computer down at night. I know this is a highly debated practice,but that is what I do. My question is with those of us that do this, what about the router and modem. Do you shut them off also?
     
  2. Trooper

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    No I would leave both of them on.
     
  3. Kerodo

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    I shut down my computer at night also, but leave the modem and router on 24/7. It doesn't seem to do any harm leaving them on. My last router lasted about 5 or 6 years. Modem is about 4 years old now...
     
  4. Robin A.

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    I shut down everything at night. To save energy. The 5+ years old router is installed, maintained and replaced if necessary by the ISP.
     
  5. WilliamP

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    Thank you for the input.
     
  6. Spysnake

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    There are two reasons to consider shutting them off too: overheating on some models, and if the devices are not behind surge protectors, electrical surges too. Personally, I don't see either one of those as a problem and I leave these on at night, but folks in areas where electricity isn't stable might want to shut off any unneeded devices.
     
  7. siberianwolf

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    why do you guys leave your pc's on while asleep, in the first place?
     
  8. cozumel

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    I'm folding. So it's it's for a good cause. Keeps the room nice and snug too with all the heat created. :cool:
     
  9. siberianwolf

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    well, that i appreciate. but i have my doubts that everyone here is into this folding thing and that's why their pc's are constantly on. :p
     
  10. Kerodo

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    Nobody said they leave their PCs on all night, just some leave their router and modem on all night. 2 different things.....
     
  11. Trooper

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    Indeed.

    For me, the pc gets turned off, but router and modem stay on. I dont see the need to turn them off at night.

    Could not imagine doing that here at work either. :D
     
  12. siberianwolf

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    well, this
    makes me think otherwise.
    on account of others, my bad. just didn't pay much attention. except for cozumel, who says he does leave his pc on while asleep for folding purpose.
    cheers
     
  13. WilliamP

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    I don't even like folding clothes. I turn mine off for a couple of reasons. One is to minimize the internal dust buildup, Windows seems to like being rebooted,and it is quieter with them shut down.
     
  14. J_L

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    I turn off my PC at night, unless it's downloading or doing some other task. If so, I usually make a shutdown timer.

    I never touch the router or modem unless necessary.
     
  15. SweX

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    I turn the PC OFF at night, of course :thumb:

    No I don't turn the Router off since it uses very little power, and overheating is not an issue. (Never heard about that before actually, that a modem or router could overheat :p )
     
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    Cable companies use the modems they supply to you for traffic balancing their network, at least they used to about 5 or 6 years ago. I would turn off the modem in order to stop this abuse.
     
  17. Spysnake

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    Atleast here in Finland we have few modems which can "overheat". Meaning that the heat doesn't break anything, but the modem becomes unstable and starts disconnecting. Dedicated routers usually don't have this problem, but I have seen this with the ADSL-modem + Router configurations. If I remember right, atleast Zyxel's low-end models tend to do this. One could of course argue whether the heat is the biggest issue - some of the low-end models seem to have all kinds of limitations which start to kick in when used longer.
     
  18. Bill_Bright

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    Nah! At night, if you are in bed, your modem is pretty much at idle the whole time (or better be or you have other problems). The cable companies do NOT "use" your idle modem to balance their network - and even so, from their side, there is little difference between an idle modem and one turned off.

    I leave my network up and running full time because I use dynamic address assignments (DHCP), as do most users and many ISPs. If you turn off a network device for an extended period of time (as little as 10 minutes for some networks) the assigned IP address is returned to the pool. This means in the morning, your network may be "reset" and your computers, the router, the modem all need new assignments. This can cause problems with many attached devices (like networked printers, NAS, etc.).

    As for leaving computers on 24/7 there are many valid reasons for doing that. Two in particular are security and backups. Many users schedule security scans and backups in the middle of the night, when their computers and networks are otherwise idle.
     
  19. Robin A.

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    The energy usage of an individual device in standby or idle mode can be very low, 4 or 5 W, or even less. But the problem is the aggregate or collective result of having hundreds of millions of devices connected 24x7 and doing nothing for many hours each day.
     
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    While true, most people don't care about the global impact, only their monthly power bill. And to that, there are many such devices that consume power when idle in the average home, including anything with a clock and/or charger. I saw on TV just the other day that many DVR devices provided by cable TV companies consume more during 24 hours at idle than a refrigerator, traditionally considered to be the biggest power eater in house.

    Here it is: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20071139-260/study-dvr-set-top-box-use-most-energy-at-home/
     
  21. SweX

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    Say that to those that have their Computers on 24/7 :ouch:

    Though don't get me wrong here because I agree with you 100% :thumb:
    But there is a HUGE difference of having your Router on 24/7 than having your Computer on 24/7! Agreed? Since the PC is using so much more power than the tiny router does.

    And the usual comment I see from those that has their PC/s on 24/7 is that they don't turn it off due to the higher risk of getting hardware failure during bootup. o_O
    The risk may be higher but it's still not a reason big enough to have your PC/s on 24/7 :isay:

    FYI. I also use DHCP.
     
  22. J_L

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    I thought IPv4 addresses are running out, and mainly static nowadays.

    Some people have servers, gateways, even custom routers running 24/7.
     
  23. SweX

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    I was talking about PC's ONLY. Though I had a feeling that someone would mention servers etc.. ;)

    But as I said, I was talking about PC's only like the one you and I are using now for example. :)
     
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    I shut off the PC when not in use. It sucks about 250 watts idle so no way it is going to be on when not used. Cable modem (oxymoron by the way) is left on because it would take way too long to get it to connect to the cable company again. Router is left on but mine can be programmed to turn off the wireless transmitter on a schedule, so I have mine turn off at night.
     
  25. Bill_Bright

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    They are running out. But IPv6 supports DHCP too.

    Ummm, not by any standard definition of oxymoron. The words "cable" and "modem" are not contradictory - a requirement for oxymora.

    "Deafening silence", "rolling stop", or "original copy" are classic examples of oxymoron.

    A "cable modem" is simply a modulator-demodulator designed for use with cable networking.
     
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