rising internet security? anyone use it

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  1. zfactor

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    can you comment on it? resource wise and as a suite how well does it do? thanks just being curious anyone have screenshots of the suite not the regular av? looking for some possible other alternatives if norton pulls the garbage they seem to be planning. looking for stuff maybe i have not tried yet. i wish dr web would release their full suite id be using it already lol..
     
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  3. zfactor

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    any more info on it? what is it like resource wise? does it slow down http? etc?? is detection any good at all?
     
  4. RejZoR

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    Rising is not all that bad actually. Only crappy side of it is the fact Active Defense doesn't work on 64bit systems (at least it wasn't like month ago). And thats really a shame.

    Is there any info if Active Defense is also planned for 64bit systems?
     
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    It sure looks nice. I hear some great things about them
     
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    Also some bad news :mad:
     
  7. zen_usuario

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    I'm using it, and I'm thinking "Active Defense" is compatible with 64bit systems:
    "OS: Windows 2000/XP/2003/Vista/64 Bit" from "System Requirements" tab at this page: http://www.rising-global.com/products/Rising-Internet-Security-2009.html

    For me is a nice suite, functional, easy to install it customizing all you want (modules, embedded scan, HIPS, etc) and reconfigurable all the time adding or uninstalling components. Good "Tools" tab, "Spyware" tool is "RISING PC Doctor" downloadable english from home page of RISING. Good helpfile also.

    System impact ok for me, but this also depends of specific configuration and "security level" selected.

    Well, an "all in one" without "parental control" and "anti spam" features, but with all the rest and more, allowed for free use also, with a very good granularity conception.

    RISING detections (AV part) not show the "best" of the market, perhaps by are more focused on the asian market, but ok for me when combined with the other features.

    There is a Virus Bulletin Product Review of RISING Internet Security 2009 (ris09) published at RISING, with good descriptions: http://www.rising-global.com/Inform...uct-Review-Rising-Internet-Security-2009.html
     
  8. RejZoR

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    Smart Active Defense does not work on 64bit systems. There is a red cross in installer even before you install it.
     
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    Bad surprise :doubt: I'm asking to Rising support for this. I'll inform you if some news I get ;)
     
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    I did the same lol :p
     
  11. zfactor

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    ill await your responses then i guess since with 64bit that would be a issue for me
     
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    I've got yesterday this reply from RISING support:

    "Rising Antivirus can be installed on Windows98/Me or WindowsNT4.0/2000/XP/2003/Vista/64 Bit. But at present the Active Defense feature doesn't support Windows Vista 64bit, just auto-Protect can work fine."


    @RejZoR

    So, you were right, "Active Defense" from RISING AV or RISING Internet Security itsn't supported "at present" for Windows Vista 64bit :doubt:
     
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    A modern AV for Windows 98/Me is kinda remarkable in its' own right!:isay:

    Perhaps I won't cringe when someone asks about an AV for ME.:doubt: But for 98; this is outstanding news.:thumb: :argh: :D
     
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    lol but they dont support 64bit yeto_O

    can someone tell me how many procc this uses the full suite and what the ram usage is like. also how large once installed?

    how well does the firewall do for a basic user (the wife) she does very little on the net actually so something free like the suite they have may be perfect.

    thanks
     
  15. RejZoR

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    No. You can use Rising on 64bit systems just fine. You just can't run component called Smart Active Defense. SAD is more like an easy HIPS that protects only specific parts of the system (registry, filesystem and memory).
    File monitoring (real-time scanner) and e-mail scanner work just fine.
     
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    Rising does seem to have enough protection for us 9x/ME die-hards, especially since most malware writers ar targeting the NT kernel and rooting the NTFS. Never-the-less, PAID (ULTRAHYPERMEGABUMMER) AVs are still out there for systems as old as Win 3.x, but RAV works well. It's on-demand scanner seeks and scans things 9x/ME systems can get. 4 thumbs up.

    It's a strange world.

    Dave
     
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    avast! works on systems from Win95 and up. With limited functionality (you have to manually setup mail and HTTP scanning, Network Shield doesn't work) though but everything else works.
     
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    Yeah, RejZoR, I know, but they keep threatening to discontinue 9x/ME/2000/NT support, and I couldn't stand the disappointment! And I gotta have at least 3 AVs running at once. :D

    Dave
     
  19. RejZoR

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    Well, to be honest, it's time to let go those ancient operating systems.
    Win95, 98 and Me are almost and over 10 years old and completelly outdated.
    So bloating your programs with ancient code just because 500 ppl still use them is just not economical.
     
  20. dw2108

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    Seriously, I'm just using Rising on a PC with the 16-bit Win 95 pre-release from 1993. Scripting is diabled, so Rising checks realtime for other minor problems and potentially harmful DOS. Your remark reminds me one Vista reviewer who wrote, " ... and it cost only 2 GB RAM for this Microsoft downgrade ... ." Nothing could be more of a downgrade than the Win 95 16-bit which which runs at less ram. Perhaps these old OSs shall fall one day in the category of "alternate operating systems." :D

    Dave
     
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    Okay so this has low impact on system resources. Does the AV scans for bad cookies also that trace your movements.
     
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    I hope you have your tin helmet on when saying such things,there are those that will fight to the death for their pet OSes.:)
     
  23. zen_usuario

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    All I know, not. Better another tools for this (Spybot Search&Destroy....others), or erase directly when you close your browser (configure it for automate). Cookies aren't malwares, so the AV do not catch them.
    But yes filters the bad or suspicious scripts downloadables from the web ("Active Defense"> "Web Trojan Defense").
     
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    For the 16-bit Win 95, the browser is NetScape 1.01, which came out before the cookie. On 2000, XP and beyond, and with Rising being a relatively new AV/HIPS, it seems, the jury is still out. Perhaps the AV Comparatives will provide us one day with some very illative -- hopefully very good -- info about RAV and RIS. And cookie control, now being a *.js function with the _utma.js and other js files, should be considered now as a problem, especially from those websites which put a cookie on your drive such that when deleted, it uses a registry key to genrate a new tracking cookie on reboot. Ditto the FILE, 0 kb GIF/JPG/JPEG/PNG/BMP and DAT cookies, as well as those which use unicode names.

    Dave
     
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    Thanks too all those who had replied to me here...

    I had just gave this a try to see if current PC Tools Spyware Doctor with Antivirus SE (freeware version) was it doing it's job on the most active system on my network? Results were it was doing it's job and Rising AV didn't find anything on the system though it took a very, very, very, very long time to do so... I've opted out of Rising AV and gone back with current PC Tools Spyware Doctor with Antivirus SE (freeware version) for now.. I had to use Revo Uninstaller to get rid of Rising AV huge impact on the file system. Ran tune-up utilities to finalize the impact..
     
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