Ring 0 HIPS Test

Congratulations to Kaspersky, which was perfect in almost all tests.

Tested NIS 2010, this is bad because the 2011 version has many, many improvements.

 

The revised test results still aren't up. You must be looking at the 2009 results - same mistake I made.

 

Results before revision: Following products did 100%

AVG, DW, Kaspersky with Little no. of alerts

Online Solutions with more no. of alerts

Comodo, OutPost, Safe n Sec, TrendMicro with many no. of alerts

GesWall- little no of alerts but failed 2 of seven tests

 

aigle,

will that make you consider switching to DW as a possibility?

 

Just to add to that, those that failed some of the tests were:
- Geswall (2 of the 7 tests failed)
- Online Armor (6 failed)
- PC Tools (4 failed)
- Zonealarm (6 failed)

 

I like DW a lot. It,s very strong indeed and unlike GW its development is not stagnant.

However I am using only free software and also I use windows for testing mainly. My main OS is now Ubuntu and I am really happy with it.

DW has a big issue of no 64 bit support. Without that I don,t see a long life for DW, sorry to say. I suggested Ilya to make a DW working in 64 bit using windows own internals just like GW but he doesn,t like this idea. Time will tel how long DW can survive without a 64 bit version.

 

tnx for your input aigle, it's very much appreciated!

 

Oh.. lot of thanks for your nice words.

 

I suggested the same, even offered to share the development cost. Now Sully is making Safe-Admin. This does not has the same scope, but will provide strong protection in practise. As mentioned the OS mechanisms itself of Vista and Windows 7 would have survived these tests.

By the way: DefenseWall really is excellent software. My mother of 77 is able to use it, while she is a complete security illiterate. On the protection/user interaction scale, DW is the easiest to use HIPS providing real robust protection.

 

good job Spyware Terminator

 

"Sergey Ilyn" is just nickname of Ilya Shabanov.

 

I didn't say "no". I always say "I can do it only by providing the same level of protection as 32 bit version. To achieve this I need to bypass PatchGuard". I just going to finish 32 bit version to its "close to perfect" state (there are still some things need to be improved, but not much) and then I'll find resources for deep problem's research. Next year, I hope.

 

i am seriously thinking about replacing Geswall with Defensewall.
one of the main reason is the excellent support you provide for Defensewall Ilya.

i have no intent to switch to 64 bits anytime soon but i sincerely hope you reconsider a 64 bits version, if only to assure a future for Defensewall...

 

Hi! it,s not a sarcastic remark so let me ask pls. Do you seriously think that MS will allow any vendor to bypass PatchGuard, except for a short period of time( until they patch this bypass)?

 

I don't know, I'm not affiliated with MS. I'll try and then we check it out how it goes.

 

My DNS server is blocking me from the test results, and I feel too lazy to work around it right now. Ok, a couple of things instantly came to mind when I saw others post that Online Armor had poor test results. The first thing was Online Armor just made the huge leap to becoming 64 bit compatible so maybe this could be a short phase they are going through until they get everything up to par with 64bit compatibility. The second thing was maybe these people are affiliated with Matousec, and they are trying to get some payback at OA. I have no way of knowing this, but it did cross my mind. Anyways i'm running OA on this machine right now, and it's running great!

 

So how are you going to explain to all your 64bit customers when their 64bit Defensewall suddenly stops working when MS patches your bypass? Hardly a professional approach.

 

No, Anti-malware.ru have already said the wrong results were posted.

 

I don't think he meant that he'll try to bypass the PatchGuard. I think he meant he'll consider making a x64-version if it's possible to make it as strong as the 32-bit version. He'll try to do this but he's not sure it's possible (me neither, but I still think he should do it).

 

It's not practical by any means.

 

Go for it Ilya!

There never was a horse that couldn't be rode.
There never was a rider that couldn't be throwed.

 

Ok, thanks for the info.

 

Oh man, Geswall failed a couple "tests". Does it mean I should not run Geswall?! Nah, I'll keep rolling with it

Oh,wait I do have Defensewall + liscense,choices,choices.

 

well,

geswall failing a couple of 'test' was a good time for me to reassess my setup.
it is still a damn fine product but unfortunately it does not seem to be actively developped.
i also have a problem with having my keyboard freezing on reboot once in awhile and the only solution is a to do a hard power shutdown AND unplugging the power from the wall.
i have removed geswall for the time being and will be monitoring in the next week or so if the problem still appears without geswall.

also, after using shadow defender for a couple of weeks i am pretty happy with SD and i am always looking to use the very minimal amout of security apps to do the job.

i will see how it goes...