Returnil type and Reboots

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  1. Long View

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    Using Returnil or Deepfreeze I don't have any realtime av, as.
    Rather than just install one for one demand I tend to run different programs as and when. Some programs require a reboot but others do not. For those that don't require a reboot it is possible to install the program with Returnil in protected mode, check for spyware, virus and then uninstall leaving a clean machine.

    The suggestion has been made that most programs require a reboot - which is not my experience - so I thought it might be helpful to build up a list of on demand programs that do or don't require a reboot.

    To kick off I have just run SuperAntiSpyware 3.7 free - no need for Reboot
     
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    Spyware Terminator
     
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    AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5 no need for reboot
     
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    Bit Defender Free Edition 10 - says needs reboot but scans ok anyway.
     
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    Esets online scanner.
     
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    When you start "ignoring" the reboot of a software, then you can install any software without reboot. You don't know why a software asks for a reboot and there is probably a good reason for this, otherwise it wouldn't ask for reboot.
     
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    A squared Free 3.1 - no reboot required
     
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    I know that Avira antivir has a particularly poor updater and a tendency to produce false positives but it is popular - no boot required.
     
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    You could just use a selection of online scanners.
     
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    As Returnil, DeepFreeze and some others have problems with programs which require a reboot I was simply interested in seeing if there were sufficient AV and AS programs to allow usage with Returnil and DeepFreeze. I'm sure that eventually an anti-virus program or anti-spyware will be noted that does require a reboot but the names mentioned so far plus, as you say ,a selection of on-line scanners suggest that the re-boot issue is a none issue as far as scanning is concerned ?
     
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    touche;)
     
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    I have found that to run a new programme without rebooting, I check msconfig.

    I look for new services that have been installed. Then I go to services and set the new ones to automatic and start them.

    Then back to msconfig and look for new startup entries. I locate and manually run the files referred to by the startup entries.

    It works most of the time for me.
     
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    Is that what you call a solution for the less-knowledgeable users ?
    Returnil is designed for the average user, that's why it so simple, so keep the rest also simple.
     
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    This is a very one-sided thread and doesn't tell anything, on the contrary it's misleading, because any software with a required reboot is ignored. Try the most popular firewalls, try AE, try DefenseWall, ... and find a SOLUTION for these softwares.
     
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    ErikAlbert

    I've not tried the method I described on the software you mention apart from AE. AE reboots automatically during install. That is one of the few that I have tried and failed with.

    I don't know about more modern pieces of software but the method I mentioned above works for earlier versions of Zone alarm (Version 5) and ProcessGuard even though they state a reboot is required during the installation.

    I don't believe that I claimed that my method was suitable for less knowledgable users. I just mentioned it because it seemed to fit in with the thread.
     
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    Hi,

    These days, not too many apps requiring reboot after initial installation. If there are some, the methods described above will certainly serve a GREAT news to Returnil/DeePFreeze users and alike. I do hope it prevails.
     
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    and a much appreciated contribution from my point of view. Will have to try on the next program - Thanks
     
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    Hello,
    Almost like Linux ... install, start services ...
    Mrk
     
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