Restoring .tbi to larger/smaller partition

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  1. Cruise

    Cruise Registered Member

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    Can someone tell me what, if any, IFD/IFL options are required when restoring a .tbi to either a larger or smaller target partition than the source partition (on same HD)?

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  2. The Shadow

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    Interesting question. So far I have not had the need to do that, but I'm certainly interested in finding this out myself (that may be the purpose of the Resize Partition option?).

    One of the Terabyte gurus such as Brian, MudCrab, or Panagiotis will probably give us a definitive answer fairly soon...

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  3. TheKid7

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    Restoring to a Smaller Drive or Partition:

    http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=554

    Restoring to a Larger Partition: I "guess" that you could restore the Image to the same size. Then you could increase the restored Partition Size, as desired. This resize operation could be done with Windows 7 or a Partition Management Utility such as: BootIt Bare Metal, GParted, etc.
     
  4. Brian K

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    In IFW, Backup, select a partition, Information. The "MiB to Restore" number is the smallest partition you can restore into. It is the sector spread.

    You can use Compact to lower this number.
     
  5. The Shadow

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    If the target partition has been resized larger (subsequent to the time of the last backup) and now you want to restore that backup into the enlarged partition, isn't there a way to tell IFD/IFL to automatically consume the larger partition?

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  6. pandlouk

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    When restoring on a new unformatted/unpartitioned disk the option that is needed, is the geometry setting "Align End By resizing". (combined with either with the 2048 alignment or the cylinder alignment).

    When restoring on an already partitioned disk you don't have to do anything IFW/IFL/IFD will automatically correct the alignment.

    In both the above cases the only setting that you need to configure is at the final step "resize after restore" where you'll have to specify the desired size in mb.

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  7. pandlouk

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    For this you should use the expand command.
    on the command line parameters you add
    /x

    or if you prefer to use it as a global setting you add in the ifw.ini the parameter
    Expand=1

    Panagiotis
     
  8. mantra

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    but the compact has to perform before create an image

    why doesn't ifw perform a "compact" on the fly during the restoring process?
    it would be really handy
     
  9. The Shadow

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    Panagiotis, that won't work for me - I use the GUI versions of IFD/IFL... :doubt:

    Cruise, I think that 'resize after restore' is the ticket to consume a newly enlarged partition, but restoring to a smaller partition can be tricky (at least with IFD-GUI or IFL-GUI).
     
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  10. Cruise

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    Thank you. ;)
     
  11. pandlouk

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    If you add the
    Expand=1
    feature in ifl.ini or ifd.ini it works.(but it will be active for all your restores)

    Panagiotis
     
  12. pandlouk

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    You're welcome. :)

    Panagiotis
     
  13. The Shadow

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    Thanks Panagiotis. Presumably, that won't present a problem when the source and target partitions are the same size. :doubt:

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  14. pandlouk

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    It does not.
    But could potentially give problems when restoring multiple partitions at once. I do not know how it behaves in this situation, but could e.g. redistribute the space/size between the partitions if they are adjacent.

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  15. MudCrab

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    Multiple partitions can only be resized automatically when an entire drive is restored. In that case, using the option would be equivalent to the Scale to Fit option.
     
  16. pandlouk

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    Hi Crub,

    thanks, tried it with multiple partitions and has no effect (when other partitions exist).
    By the way do you know if the expand is only intended for the automatic restores? Because when using the normal/manual restore it has no effect (at least with IFD gui).

    Panagiotis
     
  17. MudCrab

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    If you're restoring multiple partitions and need to resize them you have to be restoring to a blank drive (same as if you're restoring a entire drive image). If you're doing a manual restore the Scale to Fit option should be available. You won't be able to control the sizes of the individual partitions unless you restore them separately.
     
  18. andylau

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    Sometime I will forget to Compact before imaging
    I think IFW is backup by storage structure, am I right?

    In my memory, Ghost(Ghost Solution Suite) does not need to Compact, maybe backup by files?
    I think if IFW can have this kind of backup method will be better for some users.
     
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