Recovery boot disk, together with windows

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  1. pettergulbra

    pettergulbra Registered Member

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    Hi

    I have my windows install disk on an USB drive, with boot up system and everything.

    My question is if it is possible add the boot system for Backup & Recovery 2012 Free Edition in the same USB drive.

    Maybe a way to select what I want to do.

    Kindly

    Petter
     
  2. SIW2

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    Do you mean you want the Linux based iso file to the usb stick?

    Or do you want to add paragon to some kind of winpe - boot.wim for example?

    Both are possible.

    To boot the iso , you could use grub.

    Alternatively and it is not hard to make winpe media including paragon BR Free

    PARAGONPEMAKER

     
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    Hi

    What I want is to have the Boot up recovery console at the same USB stick as I have Windows.

    I Don`t know the difference between Linux or WinPE.

    My USB stick can now boot, so Windows can boot from it.
    Is it some way of adding this Recovery console to that same USB stick?

    Like a choice in the boot up, like: Start Win installation or Recovery console (paragon)
     
  4. SIW2

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    Yes, there are several ways to do it.

    1. If you have winpe media ( a bootable .wim ) , name it something like bootx86.wim, then copy it into the sources folder on the usb stick.

    ( If you don't have paragon in winpe media, you can make it -very very very easy with the little program I linked to earlier)

    Then create a boot menu entry using bcdedit. That will give you a choice of sources\boot.wim ( which you must already have on your usb )

    and sources\bootx86.wim ( which contains your paragon program ).

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709667(v=ws.10).aspx





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    2. If you have a Linux based .iso, you can use grub4dos to boot an .iso from usb.

    So, put the paragon.iso (or whatever it is called ) on the usb stick - on the root i.e. not in a folder is fine.

    Then you need to install grub4dos and put entries in menu.lst.


    If you don't know the difference between windows and linux - I am afraid it will take forever to explain how to do that.








     
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    SIW2,

    Thanks I tried your WINPEMAKER..your script and procedure was great.

    Questions though;

    I have 64bit windows8.. and B&R 12 Free for Windows 8.

    When it asked for the launcher I chose xpslauncher.exe which is the B&R GUI.

    From what I understand it included this in the WIM image? But for B&R to work don't I need all the other .exe's that go with the program?

    Very nice though. I'm trying to get a bare metal restore plan in place but the
    can't figure out if the non-EFI restore CD is all I need or if a Windows PE would be best...
     
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    That one won't be EFI compatible.

    I will have a look at pemaker again when I get time.

    You need to select launcher.exe if that is what it asks for.

    Once it knows where launcher.exe is, it can work out where all the other files it needs are , relative to that.

    Paragon free can only run in 32 bit pe, because it is 32 bit coded. The paid versions come with a separate download that also contains 64 bit files.

    Have you already booted up the iso you made with PARAGONPE ?

    It IS windows pe. o_O




     
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    Hi

    By the way, I think I know a little things about the difference between Win and Linux. :)

    Bit now I`m stranded with the BCDedit. Can`t understand what I will do with the different commands. I run CMD and CD me into H: that is my USB stick.
    I have added the BOOTx86.WMI into sources, so it lies next to the original windows boot.wim. But from here, I don`t know what to do.

    This is how my USB is on the root:
    http://tinypic.com/r/2z7icmq/6

    CMD tools, is not my strength I think....

    Edit: in my eager to try this out. I think I have ruind USB Win system with EasyBCD. Tried to use that to add the wmi file, but did not work.
    And now it don`t work at all... Hmm
     
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    There is no launcher.exe file in my B&R directory. I have not booted with the PARAGONPE ISO ...will give it a try.
     
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    Tried again to day, with Easy BCD and I have got it to show a menu.
    Pick betwean Windows and Paragon.
    If I choose Pargon, it just start the normal Windows Recovery. I have set
    it to load the WinPE file that the tool made (BOOTx86.WMI).
    I also did put in the source folder of the Windows USB drive. (tried outside to)

    When I used the WinPE tool, I was asked if I wanted to add BR and PM I think.
    I did not do this, because I don`t know what it is. I found just two .EXE files in the Paragon Free folder, this was Launcher.EXE and rmb.EXE (recovery media builder)

    Hope for some help.

    Petter
     
  10. SIW2

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    BR = Backup and Recovery

    PM = Partition Manager

    It asked you to browse to Launcher.exe

    You decided to ignore the instructions and browse to some other random file.

    Of course it is not going to work. o_O
     
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    "..You decided to ignore the instructions .."

    I'm trying to learn here.. :'( Its not so much that I ignored the instructions as I could not find a launcher.exe file . This is the free 32 bit B&R...in the program files (x86) dir. I'll do a search on my HD and see if any launcher.exe exists.
     
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    Launcher.exe must be there.

    It is in the "program" folder.

    The same folder where you found explauncher.

    ....Unless there is a new version of B&R without it
     
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    :( no launcher.exe in my Image Backup for Windows 8 directory. I admit it was naïve of me to choose something close. I think because I'm running Image Backup for Windows 8 and not some other B&R version. Your script for creating the PE disk was super cool though.
     

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    Image Backup for windows 8 is a different program from Backup and Recovery.

    Img for 8 is the only Paragon program which does not have launcher.exe.

    PARAGONPE should find it automatically - there is no need to browse for it.

    It is only if you want to include another Paragon, e.g. B&R or Partition Manager, that you need to browse to the requested file.

    I have no idea what you did there.

    The best thing is to run it again.

    When it asks

    Include Paragon Image for 8 ?

    Enter Y.

    When it later asks

    Include Paragon BR or PM OR HDM (Y/N):

    Enter N.

    That is all you need to do.
     
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    Thanks, I try answering no about B&R and then try booting with the CD... thanks.
     
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