Rate Detection Avira PE vs Dr.Web 4.33

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by larouse, Jan 8, 2007.

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  1. larouse

    larouse Registered Member

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    Hi,

    I have installed these two AV in one machine ( Not same time ) and both run well in my Laptop. Now like to know How would has better detection rate ? We have a lot Internet Traffic and Email too. How would the best alternative to protection ? I am talking about Avira Pro ( Pay version ) think that is 7

    Thank you
     
  2. trjam

    trjam Registered Member

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    No contest, Antivir.
     
  3. Coastline

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    No contest,Dr.web
     
  4. IBK

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    see av-comparatives (august 2006 or wait for february/march 2007)
     
  5. larouse

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    Sorry can not wait...just wait more comments here
     
  6. JerryM

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    If detection is the criterion Avira is the clear winner. According to AV Comparataives, Dr Web is not even close in detection rates or retrospective rates, although it is better than most in the retrospective tests.

    Jerry
     
  7. larouse

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    Jerry,

    Thank you and Sorry but I am not expert in these terms...Where can lear about terms:

    Restrospective ? How mean this in AV terms ?

    Thank you,
     
  8. PaulBB

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    AV Comparatives??

    I don't need any AV Comparatives, I define myself as a VERY HIGH RISK surfer, i don't care about ''retrospective stuff'' etc...Few last weeks ago i tried a lot of av software so my ''AV Comparatives'' in terms of detection and removal of HIGH RISK SITES AND SOFTWARE (cracks, warez, keygens, adware, spyware, trojans etc..) are:

    1. KASPERSKY
    2. NOD32 - DR.WEB
    3. The others...Symantec Corporate Client for first
     
  9. JerryM

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    Hi larouse,

    On AV Comparatives there are results from two different kinds of tests; on-demand and retrospective/ProActive. Here is the AVC site.
    http://www.av-comparatives.org/

    The retrospective test shows the proactive ON-DEMAND detection capability that the scanners had 3 months prior to the test with best possible detection settings. The data base has not been updated for the three month period so the AV must rely on behavior analysis to detect the malware. This tests the heuristics of the AV as opposed to signatures in the AV data base.

    When we get into the details of this, I am in “over my head”, and it can be explained better by others here who I feel sure will jump in and help us.

    Best,
    Jerry
     
  10. MalwareDie

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    If you are looking solely on detection rates, your best bet is Avira hands down. It rivals kaspersky in detection rates.
     
  11. SystemJunkie

    SystemJunkie Resident Conspiracy Theorist

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    I like people like you, I think the same way, the only importance is what your own test says for yourself in your individual situation, forget the rest and the unnecessary flames of standard guys. We are no standard, we are especial individual.

    Indeed AntiVir made very good progression, especially in crypted & heuristic stuff, related to this it could be considered as approx. the 4th best av-scanner of the world actually.
     
  12. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    well i dont choose an AV on these test results that fly about,

    i am a dr.web user and thought id do a test myself, thousands of viruses and including such dodgys as cracks , hacktools, joke programs, the results were interesting, see my posts HERE & HERE

    so to answer your thread on my own testing, antivir has the best detection out of the two.
     
  13. dawgg

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    Cracks, keygens and warez aren't malicious and IMO think they should not be included in any half-decent comparisons... just my point of view, at the end of the day, its up to you seeing as its your comparison!
     
  14. tsilo

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    Avira better in retrospectiv detection..
    Avira better in proactive detection..
    So...your choice.
     
  15. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    this forum is biased!
    drweb better support
    better updates
    less bugs

    your choice,

    and detection aint bad, so the latter for me.
     
  16. lodore

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    as said personal choices.
    antivir premium works fine on my sister's laptop
    kis6.0 works fine on my desktop.
    dr web worked fine on my test pc but i didnt like the gui.
    lodore
     
  17. jlo

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    If I put my 2 pennies worth in I would say they are both great.

    I think Antivir at the moment is ahead with Heuristics (exuse the pun as they are called AHEAD heuristics 'Advanced Heuristic Analysis and Detection') and has excellent detection.

    However Dr Web is pretty good with heuristics and from what I understand in the future may be getting a whole lot better.

    As for support both companies add in samples quickly, however on submitting stuff to Dr Web I have had samples added in under 20 mins!

    Would be happy to have either on my computer (an fact I do have Antivir PE on my main computer)

    Cheers

    Jlo
     
  18. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    yep heuristics aint too bad, 34% at last test, but there is a new beta with new technology and then onto dr.web 5, so its all looking good.

    yep, 16 minutes after i submitted i recieved the signature for it, to be honest i couldnt believe it, also with dr.web, developers are willing to reply to customers, even the top dogs of dr.web.
     
  19. Stefan Kurtzhals

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    BTW, I am back from 3 weeks holiday. That means I had 3 undisturbed weeks to optimize the heuristics, so you can expect a release of the new Avira heuristics ("3.0") very soon. I am quite satisfied with the detection improvements, though we still don't do emulation based behaviour heuristics. Can't wait to get my hands on that toy. :rolleyes:
     
  20. jlo

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    Thanks Stefan,

    Looking foward to that!! You have already done a great job with Antivira Heuristics already!


    Cheers

    Jlo
     
  21. lucas1985

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    Is this like Norman Sandbox, BD B-HAVE, NOD 32 Advanced Heuristics?
    Thanks.
     
  22. RejZoR

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    Yes, something like that.
     
  23. tsilo

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    If drweb have better updates why he haven't better detection?
    Avira updates 7-8 times in day, they always replys to e-mail and add new viruses to signatures next hour. Avira have wery good forum.
    So...your choice ;)

    sorry for my english
     
  24. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    this forum is biased!
    dr.web can update 7-8 times per hour nevermind per day,

    but dr.web users know they are secure when one of these updates arrives, not that it will conflict the software in one way or another.

    also, dr.web only adds signatures for files than can be executed

    dr.web also have a forum, with developers replying to people, even the top dogs of dr.web reply.
     
  25. trjam

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    Dr Web is a good product, but at detecting malware, which is why most buy one for, Antivir is ahead by a good bit. Their false positive rate is very low compared to Dr Web and this is very helpful to folks who may end up deleting something they dont understand. If it were me, buying today, Antivir. Now 6 months fro now, it may be different.
     
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