Question About My Phones?

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by lucygrl, Jun 26, 2015.

  1. lucygrl

    lucygrl Registered Member

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    I have 3 phones, all Samsung. Different numbers connected to 3 different phone carriers. I have all 3 phones sitting on my desk turned on. I change the login pass on one phone and it ends up changing the pass on all three phones. How is this possible?
     
  2. roger_m

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    @lucygrl For your Google acoount or Samsung account?
     
  3. lucygrl

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    No Account. Im only talking about the pin code for when you switch the phone on. Im not talking about logging into any account. Just the login for the phone to switch it on.
     
  4. roger_m

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    @lucygrl I don't know why that would be happening. Maybe someone else can offer some insights?

    I don't have a pin on my Android phones, and they are not real Samsungs anyway.
     
  5. mirimir

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    @lucygrl

    Do you have some sort of Samsung account, perhaps a private app store or update service, that's shared by all three phones? If so, the PIN that you're changing might propagate via Samsung.
     
  6. haakon

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    That's interesting. Hopefully some one here might jump in with the down low on how that's done. I know lots of folks but no one with three phones, let alone three Samsungs. :D

    This is the Wilders-equivalent forum for mobile phone geeks...
    forum.brighthand.com
    I've had an account there since the candy-bar CDMA days.

    You might post up there, too.
     
  7. lucygrl

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    Thankyou, just to clarify this further. These phones are for my work which I know you are already familar with. So privacy and security is important. The phones were bought by 3 seperate people at 3 seperate locations and in 3 seperate accounts to 3 seperate people. They are the old fashioned flip phones, have no internet connection. I tried putting an Apple Phone and a Windows phone next to them and it did not affect them. But gets even more interesting. I left one phone several miles away, then changed the pin on phone 1 while it was next to phone 2. The pin on phone 2 changed, but the Pin on phone 3 did not change. I read a story in the news which was leaked from Wikileaks that many of the Card systems used on Buses where people swipe their card to get on a bus in many countries is operated by Trapwire...an American military company...and that when you get on a bus, the terminals where you swipe your card are placed on either side of the entrance so you have to walk between them and these terminals scan your phone and grab all the data and upload it to Trapwire in the States. Im just wondering now if somehow these phones are leaking information and are made to do without the user knowing?
     
  8. lucygrl

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    Also to update this further...I have removed the sim cards from all 3 phones and still get the same result.
     
  9. mirimir

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    I can't imagine how independently purchased Samsung phones would be syncing PINs with each other, unless there was some sort of shared account. Otherwise, random Samsung phones that got close enough would sync PINs, and that would totally mess up their users' lives. Also, if this were a hack, and not some shared account, it would be a give-away to do something as obvious as changing PINs.
     
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    Find someone else with the same model Samsung, and see if their phone is affected.
     
  11. roger_m

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    What is the phone model?
     
  12. lucygrl

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    I think I have part of the answer. Even though there were 3 different phone service providers...I since found out they are all resellers from the same major carrier. So in effect, all 3 three phones are coming through the same carrier. Eventually even the phone I took 7 several miles away changed pin. I sometimes need turn it on and off a few times for the change to take effect. Ill go get a sim from a different first tier carrier and try that, but I suspect I have part of the answer here.
     
  13. RockLobster

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    That still doesn't add up, what if someone else had bought one of those phones, changing your pin would change theirs ?
     
  14. lucygrl

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    Further to this, we pulled the phones apart and found what looks like some sort of chip under the sticker that covers the battery. Was found on all 3 phones. Does anyone know what this is? Could it be some sort of tracking chip? Is it even suppose to be there?
     
  15. TairikuOkami

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    It is not a bug, it is a feature. Do you have all phones paired up in bluetooth? Try changing PIN with one phone away, like at work, leave it there and check others.
     
  16. lucygrl

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    After researching the internet, there seems to be a lot of other people talking about this also. Seems others have noticed this chip also, but there seems to be a division of opinion on what it exactly does. Im no expert, in fact I know nothing. I came across this youtube video which offers some information on it....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt1INsPp2wE&feature=share
     
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  17. lucygrl

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    No, in fact there is no internet on these phones. I did try changing pins on one phone several miles away and it seemed fine, but after bringing it back in close contact to the other phones and switching on and off a few times it eventually changed pin.

    And how can you be sure its just a feature? It might be both. That is the feature might be hiding the real intention of the chip and what it is doing. I do not know, but to be safe we have trashed the phones.
     
  18. J_L

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    NFC (which is what the chip is for) or Bluetooth at work here I believe.
     
  19. ComputerSaysNo

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    Very strange behavior. Can I ask do you work for the military industrial complex?
     
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