Qubes OS 1.0 released

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  1. mack_guy911

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    http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=07435

     
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    Getting it now. Looks good!

    So basically firefox, thunderbird etc work as isolated virtual machines? Will this protect against malware?
     
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    in simple words its just like what is sandboxie in windows

    you can run containers and run what ever you want in them looks good pity thing is no live cd/dvd you have to install it and my motherboard have no VT-d - Intel
    support thats what i hate the most ;)

    but overall look good after backup i try formating one of my drive :)
     
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    It's an interesting approach. I would like to test it but, unfortunately, the FAQ says that "most likely" it won't run in a virtual machine like Virtualbox.
     
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    this video show its installed on virtual box i have short of disk only 2 gb left so even i cant go for virtual box option as well :(

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDhWNBc307Q

    on 64 bit virtual box it work on 32 bit installed it wont
     
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    How did he get it working on Virtualbox? I'm stuck at the blue screen where it says press ALT+CTRL+DEL but I can't press that inside VB. Any help?

    I'm using Fedora 64Bit settings.
     
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    Thanks for info! Real interesting concept indeed.
     
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    It still wont install on virtualbox, no idea why?
     
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    My question is why?
    Mrk
     
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    No idea, says bad install and then says to reboot. Rebooting does the same thing over and over again.

    I wish this was a live cd :mad:
     
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    can you make a review :)
     
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    I could not install it on my system. Installation stops after a while. Looks like it cant load the x-window. :( No luck trying the default basic graphic driver. Maybe it can not handle Nvidia?
     
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    hi

    Concept already used for security and critical environement focused OS like Lynx or Polyxene http://www.lynuxworks.com/virtualization/hypervisor
    http://www.polyxene.net/
    I can also mention a French dormant project designed for online taxes payment, SafeOS which is also Xen based http://safe-os.lri.fr/

    Testing an OS in a VM is not always a good idea, especially if this OS uses VM/Emulation...
    I prefer disk imaging and live testing...that which gives a complete idea of how this OS performs and works...
    And i never read revues based on VM or LiveCD testing.
    Well...best wishes for Johanna baby...

    rgds
     
  16. Out of curiosity, would there be significant disadvantages to implementing such a sandboxing mechanism using OpenVZ or Linux-VServer? Wouldn't that be a bit more practical for desktop use? Or do those leave to much kernel stuff exposed?
     
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    This sounds very cool, but the lvl of security seems almost excessive considering it's Linux not Windows.
     
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    I agree, completely unnecessary.
    Mrk
     
  21. NormanF

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    Not necessary! Linux and Mac users simply don't need that level of security. It might be a useful application in sensitive environments but they are few and between.

    There is malware written for Unix systems but you have to get past nearly everything that runs at a low level of privilege. It has to be executed to do real damage. And that doesn't happen very often as Unix users rarely run anything as root - a dangerous practice Microsoft condoned on Windows for years before realizing it wasn't necessary in the first place.
     
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    Regardless, it's still a cool concept. Maybe in 20 years when people are tired of the direction Windows is going, Linux will be mainstream enough that there will be malware for it and Qubes will be useful :D
     
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    Invisible Things Lab is working on a Windows release of Qubes.

    Linux is already mainstream in the server market around the world, and there is already malware for it, but to crack it you have to know it in depth which makes it harder to crack due to its Unix-like design character of security aforethought (designed in) approach.

    -- Tom
     
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