Prevx1 - Is it enough?

Is prevx1 enough to cover what others like ProcessGuard or System Safety Monitor cover? Is there an advantage to add PG or SSM to Prevx1? Some people us both PG and SSM, isn't that an overkill? Could someone add PG and SSM to Prevx1 lineup? What other info about this can anyone provide?

dja2k

 

That's what I like to know too. I have already the best method for removal of malwares, now I have to find a solution to stop the execution of malwares.
Possibilities are :
1. Prevx1 and/or
2. Online Armor and/or
3. System Safety Monitor and/or
4. Anti-Executable
5. ... who knows.
I can't use ProcessGuard, because it doesn't like FirstDefense-ISR.
Which one or which combination is able to stop most malwares of doing their evil job and is suitable for less-knowledgeable users ?

 

Yeah I know that we can't use ProcessGuard when using FD-ISR. I am leaning towards installing System Safety Monitor at the moment, but not sure.

Prevx1 and Online Armor are not enough for certain type of attacks in my view according to some leaktests.

I still don't really know if SSM is better than APPDEFEND part of GSS with REGDEFEND.

I am sure that soime of the new firewalls have some type of HIPS, but all new firewalls are giving me BSOD errors and Look'n'Stop has never giving me any errors.

dja2k

 

Are SSM, APPDEFEND, REGDEFEND userfriendly enough or can they be used as userfriendly enough

 

Well not to sure on how to answer, but they are mostly user interactive programs, not set and forget. I have not used SSM to really know how good it is. I do however remember how APPDEFEND was and it was fairly easy for me as well as adding REGDEFEND rules from TonyKlein. APPDEFEND still needed work as it was left in beta (few problems with some protection, nothing big) and new APPDEFEND in alpha at the moment. Online Armor is great, no conflict with other HIPS, good anti executable with reg protection tracking of executables to undo changes if you let the wrong thing run. Online Armor as far as my opinion goes, is the best anti-executable protection and the easiest user freindly program of all, but doesn't not cover exactly what SSM and GSS cover.

dja2k

 

Dja2k .I don't understand why you can't use PG with FD-ISR. I have been using both for a long time. I make a secondary on my C drive and archive a copy to an external drive. I disable PG to copy then re-enable.

 

Not every user has the SAME computer and several FDISR-users, including me, had errors with copy/updating snapshots, when PG was installed. Other users told me that PG was working fine. That happens with most softwares, they like you or they don't like you, same with people.
Since copy/update is the most used function in FDISR, I decided to ditch PG, which I didn't like anyway.
This is another computer gremlin.

 

Maybe I can use Online Armor and SSM together to stop most executables.
I don't think, I will ever have a 100% Anti-Executable software(s), but I have at least a 100% removal method in my frozen snapshot.
If a malware is really dangerous, like KillDisk Virus, I think that most anti-executable softwares will handle these malwares as fast as possible.
If one of the less dangerous ones isn't stopped by Online Armor or SSM, I can live with that because they will be removed anyway during the next reboot.
I only need an anti-executable software to survive a maximum period of 8-16 hours, the rest is for sleeping.

 

Ok, Pete You win .I am dumping PG and going with SSM. Support for PG is gone.

 

At first sight, SSM looks CHINESE to me. SSM is most probably a good software, if you know HOW to work with it.
I only want to run my legitimate applications and the execution of anything else needs to be blocked. So my wishes are simple and clear.
I think SSM will take me a very looong time, before I understand what I'm doing. Usually I avoid such softwares, because they are more dangerous for me, than safe.
I've downloaded the manual, I better start reading that one, before I start firing questions at Wilders.

 

Erik,

I think Prevx1 or OA will be much better for what you want than PG, SSM, AD, or AE.

 

Agree with you Devinco. I have a liscence of PG and I ditch it mainly because it was interfering too much with my work. But also because OF incompatibility with
FD ISR. I also had OA installed for one year and I did not renew the liscence.

Lately I've been trying SSM and Prevx1 and of the two, I definitly prefer Prevx1.

 

I have Prevx1 and Online Armor installed together with no problem, but there is still something missing there that PG, SSM, and AD\RD can offer.

dja2k

 

Hey Pete, do you think that SSM Full Version offers more than AD\RD (Ghost Security Suite) and PG once it is setup correctly? Does SSM conflict with FD-ISR in any way?

dja2k

 

Anti-Executable is the simpliest of all. Is it as good as the rest ?, I don't know.
I like Prevx1 and my computer is powerfull enough to handle it.
Don't know much about Online Armor yet and I can't give SSM to housewives.

 

So I see you have System Safety Monitor + Online Armor in your sig, but do you have prevx1 running along side that as well?

dja2k

 

Is the network stuff in appdefend better than SSM at the moment?

SSM tracks disk access appdefend does not to the same degree?

 

Currently running both oa+prevx1.no conflics that i can see at this time.they seem to work very well together.

 

I have 6 snapshots in total, right now :
1 off-line snapshot (which will be my rollback snapshot in the future)
1 snapshot for rollback at this moment
1 snapshot for online jobs
1 snapshot with Anti-Executable (experiment)
1 snapshot with Prevx1 (experiment)
1 snapshot with System Safety Monitor + Online Armor (experiment)

Since I don't get any clear answers at Wilders regarding anti-executable softwares, I don't have any real goal with all these softwares and I don't really know how to test them and keep these tests under control.
My thinking gets better, when its colder outside.

 

Erik,

What specific questions do you have? Bear in mind that many who will answer are not the developers of these applications,

Blue