Prevx SafeOnline - Name Chosen!

Discussion in 'Prevx Betas' started by PrevxHelp, Sep 13, 2009.

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  1. PrevxHelp

    PrevxHelp Former Prevx Moderator

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    Hello all,
    Thank you for all of your fantastic suggestions and input in our search for a name :thumb:

    We painstakingly sorted through all of the hundreds of suggestions and have decided on a name which is a slight modification/combination of a few suggested names :

    Prevx SafeOnline

    safeonline_logo.png

    We will be distributing the following licenses to the winners:
    5 PC for 3 years to Criss for SecureOnline (we decided against Secure because of the principle of nothing being perfect)
    5 PC for 3 years to Miyagi for BrowseSafe (for introducing the "Safe" concept)
    1 PC for 3 years to rolarocka for OnlineSecure

    Thank you again for all of your suggestions! We will definitely look to the community for similar projects in the future as this was a very successful campaign :)
     
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    Congratulations "Criss" and "Miyagi" and "rolarocka" and be "SafeOnline"


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  3. Threedog

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    Congrats to the winners!!!! :thumb:
     
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    Excellent name you've chosen! And pretty cool idea to hand the naming project over to the community. It was a kick reading all the entries, and submitting a few too. :thumb:
     
  6. Triple Helix

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    Congrats to all the winners :thumb:

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  7. rolarocka

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    Hi, thank you for the license :thumb: Good timing :D
    Nice name indeed.
     
  8. StevieO

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    Congrats to the winners !

    I enjoyed participating.

    All the best to Prevx too.

    S
     
  9. raven211

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    Gratz people - enjoy the price! ;)
     
  10. Firebytes

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    Since more than one person won, which was what i thought was supposed to happen... Congrats to the winners!

    In my mind if you decided against using "Secure" for that reason, then maybe you should use "Safer" instead of "Safe". If it isn't 100% secure then it isn't 100% safe either.
     
  11. PrevxHelp

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    Safety is always relative - you can lock all the doors in your house but a meteorite could still strike through your roof :) I agree with your point that Safe isn't 100% safe but IMO it connotes much less of a degree of inflated perception than Secure.

    If every company tried to perfectly represent what their capabilities are they would have to amend every piece of text in their products (i.e. AntiSomeSpam, AntiSomeSpyware, Realtime Protection (against some threats), Cleanup (once in a while))
     
  12. Firebytes

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    OK, it is your software after all, just offering a suggestion. :)
     
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    Excellent point Firebytes, Prevx now exists an Cosmetic Interface Design Flaw.

    Webster's Dictionary Definition of Secure: Free from danger or harm; safe.
    Webster's Dictionary Definition of Safe: Offering security from harm or danger; a safe haven.
    Webster's Dictionary Definition of Security: Freedom from danger, risk, etc.; safety. Something that protects or makes safe; defense.


    AntiSpam, AntiSpyware, Realtime Protection, and Cleanup are Nouns or Pronouns referring to software names or software labels within the program.
    Secure and Safe are Adjectives functioning as modifiers of Nouns typically by describing, delimiting, or specifying quantity, in this case , degree of protection

    The words Secure and Safe connote protection, deciding against the word Secure because of the principle of nothing being perfect would also include the word Safe.


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  14. Firebytes

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    Yeah, that's kind of what I thought. If you won't use the word secure for the reason that nothing is 100% secure then I wouldn't use the word safe either as nothing is 100% safe. I thought Safer or Safety would be better.


    On a separate note:

    While I wish Prevx the best and had fun thinking of names for the contest, I was kinda glad I wasn't one of the winners. I thought the initial post by Prevx indicated there would be one winner who would receive ten licenses. I might have been a tad upset that more than one winner was chosen and that no one person got the ten three year licenses that were promised to the winner. That's just me though. ;)
     
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    I infer no difference between safe and secure. But branding the browser feature with your name does not present the same problem. For example (even though you said you are discarding the name Edge), EdgeBrowse or EdgeLock, or PrevxBrowse. There is no controversy there. :)
     
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    I doubt many users have 10 separate PCs that they need securing, however, this is a fair point :) If any of the users who have won the licenses do wish to extend their licenses, please let me know and we will happily extend the licenses :)
     
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    No complaining from me. I am more than grateful for the generous license (5-user license for 3 years). Thank you very much Joe!
     
  18. PrevxHelp

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    "Offering security from harm or danger" - this doesn't say that it offers security from all harm or danger, just from "harm or danger". Safety is non-definitive as any measure which can be put in place can be taken out or circumvented.

    "a safe haven" - it only takes watching a few thriller movies to know that a safe haven/panic room is not impervious to threats. No matter how secure a location may seem, it is never a true "safe haven".

    "defense" is also relative - a master in martial arts is able to defend themselves against a physical attacker but if their attacker has a gun, they will no doubt swiftly lose (I'm fairly certain we don't live in the Matrix, although I could be forced to think that way :cautious:)

    After this conversation, I'm going to start a petition to remove the words Safe and Secure from the English dictionary altogether... followed by "fast food" as fast food can hardly be considered food and is rarely done quickly :D
     
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    You may use all the fancy examples and words imaginable to try and circumvent the reality that Prevx now exists an Cosmetic Design Flaw due to the improper usage of an adjective in relevance with the principle of nothing being perfect.


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  20. PrevxHelp

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    Prevx is not alone: McAfee uses the name "Total Protection", BitDefender uses
    "Total Security", Computer Associates uses "Total Defense" and virtually every company sells Internet Security Suites.

    It is very difficult to choose a name which works perfectly and we have chosen SafeOnline as we feel it has a comfortable balance (and works logically in a sentence like "Prevx helps you feel SafeOnline").
     
  21. Firebytes

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    I have no problem myself with you using the term Safe, not that it really matters what I think. I was just pointing out that I believe you could have used the word Secure instead, if you wished, with no connotations above and beyond the term Safe. Since you had a problem with the term Secure though I thought you would have the same problem with the term Safe.

    Again though, it is your software so do as you see fit. I am all for any software that works to keep users safe, especially one that supports its users as well as you do.

    I appreciate you listening and responding to my input on the matter.:)
     
  22. PrevxHelp

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    There are other factors which were brought into consideration as well, including the additional syllable in "Secure Online" and it not translating quite as well.

    We've also moved away from using the word Secure in the product (System Status: Protected is now what we show on a full licensed Prevx) so we felt moving back to "Secure" would be a step in the wrong direction while Safe isn't quite as strongly phrased as Secure.

    And it does matter what you think :) I think this thread has headed down the path of requiring a masters degree in English but it is definitely a valid and important conversation to have! :thumb:
     
  23. HKEY1952

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    The word total when used in this context:
    Total Protection, Total Security, and Total Defense are legitimate because the word total is an Verb functioning to express state, the extent or degree of the Nouns: protection, security, and defense = Total.

    The phrase "Prevx helps you feel SafeOnline" is not logical, feeling safe online does not engage protection or enforce online security. Perhaps this phrase: "Prevx helps you be SafeOnline" "be" is an Verb.
    Webster's Dictionary Definition of be: To take place; occur. To occupy a place or position. To continue or remain as before.

    PrevxJoe, will you please stop by my office after class! :D


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  24. leofelix

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    Sincere congratulations to the winners, you deserved the prixes:D
     
  25. Criss

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    Thanks for the key. :D

    Love it very much.
     
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