Prefered install sequence on a new instal ??

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  1. tiler

    tiler Registered Member

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    Hi

    Am running a new install xpult on a new ssd my question is what is the prefered instalation order for software

    I will be using the following :

    Encryption

    windows or comodo firewall

    Nod antivirus

    Malware defender

    firefox with ghostery and adblock plus (any others ?)

    Sandboxie

    Ccleaner for tidying up


    Looking forward to your experience

    Thank you
     
  2. safeguy

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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    Here's my choice of sequence:

    1. System utilities
    2. Browser + customizations
    3. Security software
    4. Encryption
    5. Antivirus
     
  3. tiler

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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    Hi

    Am thinking that I want to run portables out of sandboxie this will include my browser and couple of others.

    With this in mind do I install before or after encryption

    You are not encrypting your os are you just the prog and personal files ?
     
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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    Isn't Antivirus part of security software:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  5. The Hammer

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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    With some Av's balking at the software they find on install wouldn't it be better to install the Av first?
     
  6. safeguy

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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    Apologies...just to make myself clearer, when I mentioned 'security software', I mean 'other security software categories other than real-time AVs'. I was feeling sleepy when I wrote that (and still am right now)

    Although i'm no longer using real-time AV, even if I did, it'd still be the last thing I install. Simple reason: imaging purposes.

    @The Hammer

    I'm making the assumption that since it's a fresh install and that if one has more or less decided upon his/her software choices, he/she could download and verify the integrity and 'cleanliness' of the installers be it through checksum checks and/or using online scanner services such as VIrustotal, etc. This can be done either before of after the fresh install of windows (although i'd recommend the former and keep the 'verified' installers on a separate USB drive for e.g.)

    @tiler

    Nope..i don't encrypt my OS partition. In fact, I don't think I qualify to say anything about encryption...so i'll leave that to others who're more experienced/knowledgeable in the subject.
     
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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    I was thinking more along the lines of the Av (and there are several that do this) flagging some of the other software as incompatible and either refusing to install or throwing up warnings.
     
  8. tiler

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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    Any normal instal I would install firewall then av before anything else so blocking and checking everything.

    The Hammer makes a good point leaving it until last for imaging purposes and its noted on that point it applies to most of the defence programs doesn't it /

    Maybe loading the imaging prog then all the software that is sort of timeless before defence although if using windows firewal it can protect the setup I guess

    Whats the thought on this ?
     
  9. Tomwa

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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    This is going to be a little complicated as my install sequence is a little different but I'll try to explain clearly:

    1. Install OS (ISlipstream Updates into an ISO) from USB/DVD
    2. Check for Updates/Drivers (Just in case) & Install (If applicable)
    3. Reboot
    4. Clean temporary files (I use CCleaner & CCEnhancer)
    5. Defragment (I use defraggler as it's simple and does what it needs to do)
    6. Encrypt (More programs = More time to encrypt)
    7. Realtime Protection & Firewall
    8. Reboot
    9. Clean temporary files
    10. Preventative (SpywareBlaster, Sandboxie, etc.)
    11. Reboot
    12. Clean temporary files
    13. Additional Software (Browsers, Email programs, etc.)
    14. Reboot.
    15. Clean temporary files
    16. Enjoy

    If you want to lessen the number of AV Prompts/Risk of AV interference then you can install the preventative & additional software BEFORE the realtime AV though if you do this the least you can do is download directly from the official site (Double check that address bar) and use an online virus scanner (Such as virustotal) to scan for malware if the file size is small to enough so you don't download a malware infested install package by mistake.

    Just my two cents, I know there's quite a few reboots but there is actually more if reboots are necessary for any of your additional software.
     
  10. Brummelchen

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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    1. updates
    2. eset

    3. firefox
    3a forget pseudo security ghostery

    4. try windows firewall - or windows firewall control from binisoft

    5. forget malware defender - eset already has a nice hips with v5
    5a MD has some strange bugs, bad support since 2 years, very rare updates

    6. sandboxie

    7. ccleaner is ok, but NEVER let it work on firefox - firefox can do all on its own!
    7a ccleaner is rarely used here, find always same boring keys. i formerly use it to clean up IE cache, some programs used it, IE cant fill it (totally blocked)

    HTH
     
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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    On family computer: Windows updates, Sandboxie, AV, disabling some Windows features and services, install all other programs in random order, configure the programs, disable unnecessary startups, defrag, create restore point or image.
     
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  12. safeguy

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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    I see but isn't it better since you haven't installed the AV, you can ditch the installation and find another that is 'compatible' with your setup. After all, you've decided on your software choices (and trust them to be clean). Unless of course, you're willing to go the other route and 'trade' your software choice for another that's compatible with your AV.

    It really boils down to one's priorities imo...

    @Tomwa

    That's more or less similar to how I do it. I just don't do encryption but your point is a good one.
     
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  13. Tomwa

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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    Which point are you referring to?
     
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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    Updates First :D
     
  15. safeguy

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    Re: Prefered instal sequence on a new instal ??

    This point:

    6. Encrypt (More programs = More time to encrypt)
     
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