Opinion upcomming Ubuntu 16.04 LTS

Discussion in 'all things UNIX' started by rrrh1, Jan 14, 2016.

  1. Amanda

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    No, I really don't think I'm trolling. In fact, to me that's just your opinion, and I'm cool with that :) It's not like I'm gonna start a whole new debate on wether or not, in my opinion, your opinion about my opinion is relevant or not.

    You probably didn't read this post.

    I said that and I'll say it again. There are a few things I don't like about Canonical and about Ubuntu, but there are a lot of things I like about it. It was one of my first OS's ever, and I kind of grew an old passion on it. Ubuntu was my best distro until 2010 (then on 2012 with Ubuntu 12.04, you can see in my github history that I used Ubuntu until 13.10, where I started to use other distros like Debian, Mint, openSUSE, then finally Arch), and it's sad for me to see what Ubuntu became. But since Canonical did remove the "shopping lens", I might even give it try again sometime. I actually find Unity very attractive :p

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    Since Canonical will probably remove the "shopping lens", I can proudly say that Ubuntu might be a very good start to find an alternative to Windows. It has a ton of users, so it'll be easy for newcomers to find answers to problems they might find along the way.

    Ubuntu, as many other Linux OS's, has a large variety of Desktop Environments and each can have thousands of customizations, from Window Manager's to Themes to Icon Themes to screensavers. If something isn't found on Ubuntu's repos, there will likely be a package ready-to-use in the form of a PPA.

    Since the next Ubuntu release is an LTS (Long-Term Support) release, it will be more stable than regular releases, which is always a plus for newcomers. It also has longer support, the user doesn't have to upgrade every 6 to 9 months (this upgrade can be dangerous, although it's not common for people to have problems with it).

    It will also have new features, though I wouldn't expect good stability from them since they've been recently implemented. And as always, a fresh distro can have instabilities too, so I'd wait at least 1 or 2 months before upgrading/switching to Ubuntu. Or do a test-install on a separate HD/SDD. <- I wouldn't recommend using Virtualbox for this. Although it's a good start, REAL hardware use is only achieved by actually using the OS in question.

    Ubuntu is also a secure distro, as well as other common distros. It comes with UFW which can be easily turned on, and the user also has the option to install GUFW for an even simpler Firewall configuration. Or, if he/she so desires, there's also a more in-depth Firewall configuration >here< (I can provide some kind of support if the user desire).

    The Advantage Ubuntu has over, say, Debian, is that it has Kernel Firmware images (blobs) that will make the devices work. I myself only accept VIDEO CARD firmware (not Internet related firmware), but that's totally up to the user.
    And because of this, Ubuntu has the higher rate of "hardware that works out-of-the-box".

    And remember: "Ubuntu" means the system comes with Unity by default. Watch a few Youtube videos on Unity to see if that's what you want to start with. If not, there's always "Xubuntu" (that comes with XFCE by default), "Lubuntu" that comes with LXDE by default, UbuntuMATE which comes with MATE by default, Kubuntu which comes with KDE, and so on. But don't worry, if you don't like the default DE (Desktop Environment, like KDE, MATE), you can always install another one.

    Another advantage of Ubuntu is that, for some times, things will be developed for it first. It's a market-share thing. It probably has the most users, so sometime it'll receive more attention than other distros. But if you chose another distro, don't worry, because once a program has been developed for Linux in general, it will be made to work on pretty much all other distros (like the program Steam). It's not hard to take the binaries for one program and make it work by linking other OS's libraries. And this is only in the case of proprietary software. FreeSoftware is even easier because the source-code is available.
     
  2. vasa1

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    The original post was rather brief.

    A legitimate answer would need more information from the OP regarding "must-haves", competency, and willingness to work around various difficulties peculiar to "Linux".
     
  3. rrrh1

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    Maybe I should not have asked my simple little question.

    Ubuntu and Linux Mint are the two top Linux distributions recommended for users coming from Windows. I just wanted to know if the update had anything making it a better alternative than what's out there now. It probably won't be finalized until April. Linux Mint 18 Sarah will be based off of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.

    Most users just want an stable Linux OS that will work with the most hardware with the least problems.

    rrrh1(arch1)
     
  4. TS4H

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    Yes thats true, but the thread severely went off in a tangent that never attempted to answer the OP query, even though some may view it as vague.

    regards.
     
  5. accessgranted

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    I'm sorry to say that amarildojr is the very first member to land on my ignore-list from now on. Sad but necessary to keep my sanity and cool.
    Hard to tell at this point. I left Windows years ago and started my first Linux love affair with Ubuntu 12.04. I like 14.04 too, and Mint 17.2. I regularly come and go between these and Manjaro, Antergos, CentOS, Fedora and Stella, and access my documents from any of these superb distros ad libidum.
    I will give 16.04 a fair chance when comes the time. It's only logical to hope that every LTS release will improve on its predecessor(s) in some way, but personal taste has to be taken into account at some point, so I guess you'll have to decide for yourself in the end.
    As far as ditching Windows for Linux, it can never happen too soon IMHO, and now may be the best time ever to proceed.
     
  6. pandorax

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    Ubuntu has spyware in it. End of the story.
     
  7. Daveski17

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    Personally, I'd go for the long term support (LTS) version of Ubuntu. I use 14.0.4 LTS (Trusty Tahr) as it is stable and will be supported for a few years. I just need a decent reliable alternative to Windows. Ubuntu has a few bugs, I think they haven't fixed the Bluetooth bug in Trusty yet, but the advantages compared to MS outweighed the disadvantages for me. Particularly with security.
     
  8. Daveski17

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    Yes, generally putting people on ignore defeats the object of a forum debate, but sadly I concur.
     
  9. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    Spying implies data being collected without user consent.
    If you flip a switch and control the data flow, it's not spying. Very simple.
    Mrk
     
  10. Daveski17

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    Admittedly, but that isn't the issue here. The Ubuntu 'shopping lens' and its relation to Amazon has been well documented. Referring to it as 'surveillance' is disingenuous and promotes an attitude of fear and uncertainty. As a previous poster commented, this anti-Ubuntuism is pointless and needs to stop. The whole shopping lens debate has been blown out of proportion and is being used to promote a particular political viewpoint by some.
     
  11. Daveski17

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    When bug-free ... :p
     
  12. The Red Moon

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    anti-ubuntism is an intriguing term.
    Maybe we need a linux curtain lol
     
  13. Daveski17

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    :argh:
     
  14. vasa1

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    That's obvious, not just for Linux but for any OS.

    Anyway, if you have the time and inclination, please read http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
     
  15. Amanda

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    Sorry to know that, even though I probably never exchanged a word with you. More sorry to see that you had to make that public, though I'm not gonna go over the reasons why you would do that.

    I still want to make up for you guys, even though most of you have been complete jerks, all over an opinion that goes in a different way than yours. See this post, and see how I actually contributed to the thread in a way that is more neutral:

    But I guess even OP didn't see that.
     
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  16. Kerodo

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    Yes, but if there's one thing I've learned in all these years about computers and software, it's that nothing is bug-free. ;)
     
  17. Daveski17

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    Yeah but there's the odd annoying little bug or two. And then there's more bugs than a rain forest amount of bugs (or Microsoft Vista as it is also known as). :D
     
  18. Kerodo

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    Yeah, the fewer the better, that's for sure....
     
  19. Daveski17

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    Plus there's the fact the flash won't run on some sites in Linux. I think there is a fix with this for Firefox though.
     
  20. Kerodo

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    I installed Google Chrome in Linux and never have any flash issues....
     
  21. Daveski17

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    I have Chrome now too. Most sites work fine. There are a couple which won't run on Ubuntu for me.

    http://www.channel5.com/shows/law-order/episodes/episode-1-876

    This is one of them, although I don't know whether you can access it from the US.
     
  22. Kerodo

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    I can't check it now, I'm in Win 10 at the moment (gasp!!) :)

    I can access it though, and it works fine in Chrome here in Win 10.
     
  23. Daveski17

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    Yes, it works fine in Win 7 as well.
     
  24. ahriman

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    amarildojr: Hi, have long enjoyed you posts. I agree with you.

    Privacy. Why are folks not worried about the unprecedented assault our privacy.
    We are being sold out. So few care.
     
  25. Amanda

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    Thank you, I really appreciate your kind words.
     
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