Opera Buys SurfEasy To Add Secure VPN Services To Its Browser Software

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  1. ronjor

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    http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/19/op...-secure-vpn-services-to-its-browser-software/
     
  2. Rasheed187

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    I suppose this won't become freeware? But I've had it with Opera, the new Blink version is crap.
     
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    I wouldn't say Opera Blink is crap but what it isn't is Presto.

    This is interesting to me now that I've found that Opera has implemented javascript blocking with whitelisting in Blink and put in a few other interesting features. I wonder how this is going to be implemented?
     
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    Sorry for my laginess but can you explain bit about that interesting feature? It's quite a time since I lost my love and interest to Opera, so I don't know recent Opera situation.
     
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    The latest versions of Opera have a global javascript disable option with manual whitelisting. You have to enter the domains you are allowing into a list. Not nearly as flexible, convenient, or as powerful as the site preferences menu in the old Opera that could be summoned with a right click but it is still a good feature. There are also some good tweaking options in the opera://flags menu. They have also started to label Opera Turbo by its familiar name again so it still has a built in proxy. It appears that they will use the VPN acquisition to beef this up into a real encrypted tunnel.
     
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    Yes, I wonder if they can implement it in a handy way, I've never been into VPN's. I would use it only to hide my IP, but I've read it will slow you down, and you must also put 100% faith in the VPN provider. But Blink really is crap to me, it has been 2 years in development, and Vivaldi is already better. And I didn't see any new interesting features in Opera Blink, plus why not use a script-blocker?
     
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    What I'm finding is that Opera Blink is pretty stable overall. The built in script blocking is a bit basic but stronger than using an extension. I've been coming to the realization that default deny whitelisting is far superior to default allow blacklisting for security. I read this last night in referral to Windows built in SRP but the same principle applies to javascript. Mark Russinovich comes to the same conclusion on SRP as I've come to with JS blocking. If you want reliable security, default deny whitelisting is the way to go.

    http://blogs.technet.com/b/markruss...umventing-group-policy-as-a-limited-user.aspx

    Now that I've gotten a clonable installation that doesn't need to use the Opera installer and the annoying auto updating disabled, Opera blink is doing surprisingly well in some of the leak and security tests I've been running on it and other browsers so I'm thinking about testing it as security enhanced browser with javascript disabled for all but a few sites like eBay and google. Not the most glamorous task in the world for a browser. It will be limited to a few sites where money can change hands. The rest of the web will be mostly barred and only allowed without javascript.

    Vivaldi is just too rough for me to use for more than testing right now. Blink was in that state last year but it's a bit more mature and stable right now. I'm using Presto for all forum posting and casual browsing and will continue to use it for that purpose for a long time to come. My new found use for Blink is as an alternative to Chrome for what I'm doing with Firefox esr right now. If I find I can use it for that and feel secure, I might retire Firefox from that role or just use Blink as an alternative.
     
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    I don't see how it's better than a script-blocker. Usability is also important, I don't like spending a lot of time building a white-list. Blocking third party scripts without breaking the site is a better approach IMO. Vivaldi will be my alternative to Chrome, and I will also stick to Firefox as my secondary browser. Of course I spend about 95% of my browsing time with Opera 12.
     
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    The extensions are javascript creations themselves. Blocking JS at the browser level is always more secure. I've seen extensions--adblockers for example--disabled by js. In a secure browser, I don't want any possibility of a script blocking extension disabled. There is a difference in what is good for surfing and what is good for secure access to a few sites. A browser used for that I never use to surf.
     
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    Thanks for reply, good to see Opera still doing good job, but still far from Opera I loved...
    MisterB, obviously you understand important aspect of browser security. Also those addons can easily be modified to misbehave if you already had intrusion, or in Chrome store sometimes legitimate extension suddenly turn into malicious one. But Rasheed is in a way right, usability and granularity those extension gives can not be overlooked.
     
  11. Yuki2718

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    Only thing I can't avoid feeling after seeing your comment is, maybe you estimate time and effort to configure them too much, as surely initially it is so. But as bo said in Food for thought thread, once you established good whitelist and accustomed to domains, there's not much any more. I'm almost random internet user (i.e. my whitelist is still changing, but quite gradually) so if I really need such a lot of time to see contents, I can't read many contents. Actually it's not ofc, most sites works w/out tweaking.
     
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