OpenSUSE Leap 42.1 - Leap? More of a plunge.

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  1. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    A towel is the most important item a distro hopper can carry. But maybe to wipe their tears, first and foremost. To wit, this ultra-uber long, thorough and mostly negative review of openSUSE Leap 42.1, with kernel 4.1, Plasma 5.4 desktop, SLE sources, and three years of support, covering installation in a multi-boot Windows & Linux setup with an extremely safe and intelligent partitioning on a laptop with UEFI, Secure Boot and GPT, including look & feel, package management, extra software and conflicts, network connectivity - Wireless, flaky Samba, no Samba printing and broken Bluetooth, poor smartphone connectivity - Ubuntu Phone, failure to mount Windows Phone and weird iPhone support, poor multimedia support - no MP3 playback in Amarok, missing codecs and plugins, broken Flash installation, and no video playback over network, applications, hardware compatibility, touchpad, stability, suspend & resume, performance, resource usage, customization, various other issues, and more. Have fun.

    http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/opensuse-42-1.html


    Cheers,
    Mrk
     
  2. amarildojr

    amarildojr Registered Member

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    openSUSE clearly states that it is supposed to be "free" as in freedom, thus you normally won't find non-Free packages right away, needing external repositories for some of them.

    You're lucky you got VLC to normally play media. I tried too, but for some reason the video would open in a whole new window, so I had to VLC windows. I couldn't get HD video to play on Youtube or any other site. Even though I don't have Flash installed, HD videos should work since I installed all necessary codecs.

    I also had problems with shutting down, locking, resuming, etc. But it's a new distro, I don't blame them for not getting it right yet.
     
  3. Joxx

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    Disappointing :(
    although I was expecting it with all this "leap" ********

    thanks for the review, thorough as usual.
     
  4. AutoCascade

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    Tried OpenSuse last year and it didn't install correctly maybe it was missing drivers. Quickly moved on.
     
  5. dogbite

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    I am currently struggling with the codecs...hopefully I fix it, this hopping is exhausting :D
     
  6. amarildojr

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    Does anybody know if the codecs problems have been resolved? I have to leave Arch Linux.
     
  7. dogbite

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    I did not try myself but it seems resolved, I have heard about a major codecs and vlc update about one week ago.
     
  8. amarildojr

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    Thanks. I'm using it right now and everything seems OK. I can play 1080p videos on YouTube, have K3B and VLC codecs, and everything. Problems seem to be resolved :)

    I'll record an HD video file to see if the old bugs are still present on VLC's playback.

    Now, I'm seeing a terrible bug. I installed KDE and MATE, and upon logging into MATE I only get a black screen and I have to reboot the machine. I'll check on their forums to see what's happening.

    For now:

    Code:
    amarildo@linux-jyea:~> journalctl | grep mate
    Fev 22 20:35:32 linux-jyea sddm-greeter[1890]: Reading from "/usr/share/xsessions/mate.desktop"
    Fev 22 21:35:51 linux-jyea sddm-greeter[6170]: Reading from "/usr/share/xsessions/mate.desktop"
    Fev 22 21:35:59 linux-jyea sddm-greeter[6170]: Reading from "/usr/share/xsessions/mate.desktop"
    Fev 22 21:35:59 linux-jyea sddm[1680]: Reading from "/usr/share/xsessions/mate.desktop"
    Fev 22 21:35:59 linux-jyea sddm[1680]: Session "/usr/share/xsessions/mate.desktop" selected, command: "mate-session"
    Fev 22 21:35:59 linux-jyea sddm-helper[6183]: Starting: "/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession" "mate-session"
    Fev 22 21:35:59 linux-jyea mate-session[6184]: WARNING: Unable to find provider 'mate-panel' of required component 'panel'
    Fev 22 21:36:00 linux-jyea polkitd[1292]: Registered Authentication Agent for unix-session:8 (system bus name :1.105 [/usr/lib/polkit-mate/polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1], object path /org/mate/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_US.UTF-8)
    Fev 22 21:37:04 linux-jyea polkitd[1292]: Unregistered Authentication Agent for unix-session:8 (system bus name :1.105, object path /org/mate/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_US.UTF-8) (disconnected from bus)
    Fev 22 21:37:06 linux-jyea sddm-greeter[6543]: Reading from "/usr/share/xsessions/mate.desktop"
    Fev 22 21:37:07 linux-jyea sddm-greeter[6566]: Reading from "/usr/share/xsessions/mate.desktop"
    
    EDIT: Yup, VLC and everything working fine after installing the codecs from packman :D

    Looks like I'm staying here. I hope.

    EDIT:
    Very nice! :D A terrible bug that happens on Arch and Debian doesn't happen on openSUSE https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/4331

    Looking very promising, I must say.

    EDIT: Nice, OpenCL is working better than on Arch/Debian/Ubuntu :D So I know I can work using openSUSE.

    Damn, all that is left now is that MATE bug. Crossing my fingers that someone can help me over at their forums. :thumb:
     
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  9. dogbite

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    I did not try MATE, but XFCE sucked...Gnome3 worked great. Not tried KDE because I do not like it, but some told me it's the best DE for Suse.
    Happy to hear that you like openSUSE, I like it too...still I prefer Fedora, though.
    I tried to use openSUSE in my second and third machine (which are basically just 2 external HDDs where I boot from on other computers) but still with some problems, while Fedora have got no issues at all.

    PS: one of those 2 HDD runs MintXFCE17.3 from an ISO downloaded a couple of weeks ago...I think I might wipe it.
     
  10. amarildojr

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    I found my MATE problem. I'm used to block a ton of packages, and one of them is libgoa. Libgoa is a dependency if gvfs, which is a dependency of MATE :) So now everything is fine, I'm using openSUSE with MATE and KDE5, and everything is working beautifully. All I have to do now is create a dummy package for libgoa.

    I'm really happy with the results and I'm recommending openSUSE 42.1 to everybody.
     
  11. fblais

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    Still running OpenSUSE, amarildojr?
    I'm wondering about it...
    Thanks.
     
  12. amarildojr

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    Hi,

    Right now I'm on Windows :p
     
  13. dogbite

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    from heaven to hell? :D:D:argh::p
     
  14. amarildojr

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    :p

    I'm back to heaven now (Arch Linux). Games don't fulfill me anymore, so Windows is pretty much useless.
     
  15. chrome_sturmen

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    Of the various types that I tried in the past, suse was my favorite and the one that I used for a couple months before going back to windows - all others I went back to windows after a day or two.

    I've tried in the past mandrake, ubuntu, kubuntu, mepis, debian, pclinuxos, mint, I tried bsd for awhile too. Some of this is going back ten years so I imagine things have improved
     
  16. Kerodo

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    I tried OpenSUSE with KDE Plasma 5 (I think it was 5), and it looked beautiful, seemed good, until I ran the updater and installed all the updates that follow a clean install. On reboot, the entire UI and system was hosed/trashed. I got a similar result on Kubuntu 15.10 with Plasma. Something about Plasma and my machine just don't seem to get along. Shame, cause it looks beautiful.
     
  17. NormanF

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    OpenSUSE now has two releases going forward:

    Leap 42.1 which is based on SUSE Enterprise 12, is a stable distribution - its packages will be updated but the base system will update only when SUSE Enterprise updates its system. Think of it as the LTS of OpenSUSE - good for 6 years support.

    Tumbleweed which is based on Factory, is a rolling distribution - packages and base system will be updated as new packages and base system updates come in. Its more on the bleeding edge and you always stay current.

    What OpenSUSE to select depends on how you like to set it up and how often you want to update it.
     
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