Opensuse 13.2 Released.

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  1. The Red Moon

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    Any stability issues? I know last release was buggy when first release, it would even hang up on its own update.
     
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    I installed it last night in a Virtualbox VM and added the Tumbleweed repos. zypper up then caused a download of more than 1 GB. Thus, if you wanna try Tumbleweed it's probably better to download the respective ISO at the very beginning.

    So far no problems. Will see how stable Tumbleweed is.
     
  4. Gitmo East

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    Been running on bare metal since beta, not a problem.
    Have also pointed yast at the Tumbleweed repos, still running without a hiccup.
    Thumbs up here.
     
  5. mattdocs12345

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    Good for opensuse. They are definitely my #2 distro to go to.
     
  6. The Red Moon

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    this is also an evergreen release so should be supported till around 2016-2017.
     
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    I used the Upgrade procedure from 13.1 - 13.2 and it appeared to go well but no network connection at all. It's broken and even an hour of struggle in an attempt to fix it failed :(
     
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    Hmmm that's not good.
     
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    Yeah, I did anticipate potential issues with an Upgrade rather than a clean install, hoped for the best, but unfortunately they happened. I will try a clean install from a burned image.
     
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    I did the upgrade yesterday as well and I did not have a network connection either at the end of the process. I think that had to do with the new Wicked network. I powered off and booted again and my network was working.

    Did you do the upgrade according to this documentation?
    http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade

    Did you read the release notes? There are solutions to network issues and other possible troubles:
    https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/i386/openSUSE/13.2/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html

    I did activate all my repositories after the install and besides pipelight (for streaming) everything is working already. I am pretty happy with the upgrade. Almost everything seems to be working as it should, the new Suse solved a few problems I had with 13.1. It is indeed faster than the previous version. I do have some problems (my VPN) and I had to reinstall a few things (nvidia drivers), vlc codecs and such, but I read that it's the way things are. I also have some problems with mysql and python and configurations but that shouldn't be too hard to solve.

    Good luck to you! I wouldn't give in so easily. A clean install is nice and maybe the best. I've been running the system for about a year and made a lot of changes to configurations, software, databases and stuff, so I think it would take me a lot more time to get there again compared to a little reading in order to solve a few problems.
     
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    Yes, I did upgrade according to those instructions. I first tried re-booting but still nothing, then I Googled and tried some possible fixes here and there with no luck either. Thank you for the link to the release notes; I didn't check there. I've actually restored a very recent 13.1 image and updated everything. I'm now encouraged to try another upgrade. Thanks for suggestions, Balthazar.
     
  12. Gullible Jones

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    Currently using 13.2 on my main laptop. It's fast! Even with the full 3D compositing KDE desktop.

    It took a while to happen, but I think desktop Linux might finally be production ready.
     
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    Now I'm more stoked than ever to get going on this. Just haven't found the time yet :(
     
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    OpenSUSE 13.2 review - Back in the game!

    SUSE, back from the dead. Here's a long, thorough and highly enthusiastic review of openSUSE 13.2 64-bit edition with the KDE desktop, tested on a laptop with Intel graphics and SSD in a quad-boot configuration, covering live session, installation and post-install use, including look & feel, network connectivity - 2.4GHz and 5GHz Wireless, Samba, multimedia playback - MP3 and Flash in the live and installed system, intelligent installation suggestions, manual partitioning and BTRFS subvolume handling, bootloader niggles, package management, updates, extra repositories and third-pary software via 1-click installs, applications, system resource usage, stability, suspend & resume, desktop effects, customization, and some problems like the familiar screenshot bug, missing Samba printing, one-time freeze, and more. This should be interesting. Enjoy, for real.

    http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/opensuse-13-2.html


    Cheers,
    Mrk
     
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    Only Gnome 3 and KDE, too bad for me.
     
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    Thanks for the review, Mrk!

    XFCE is offered as a desktop isn't it? I'm just curious because that's what I'm using on 13.1
     
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    Don't see that, and nor here: http://en.opensuse.org/Derivatives
    Maybe you did a Network install?
     
  18. mattdocs12345

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    That's unacceptable.
     
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    xfce was an option available, somewhat out of site, on the DVD. Actually when I tried to upgrade a while back (network broken, however) to 13.2 it maintained the xfce desktop, so I guess it must be available somewhere on 13.2, and the following link seems to indicate it's available.

    "Edit" sorry, had forgotten the link...

    https://en.opensuse.org/Features#Xfce

    I'll soon find out when I get around to installing it.
     
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    Here's an excerpt from the review, describing the freeze:

     
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    I see the logs were broken for Mrk, just as they also were for me on my upgrade attempts :( So two big fails for me:

    1. Network
    2. Logs

    Actually, 13.1 is running so incredibly smooth as silk for me, I probably don't need to "upgrade" to 13.2
     
  22. Gullible Jones

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    @fblais that could in fact be Btrfs, I have seen all kinds of hangs and mouse lag on systems using it. Using the 'nodatacow' mount option might help, though it also prevents you from using compression.
     
  23. Balthazar

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    Thanks for your first impressions.

    I know one shouldn't take Mrk's reviews too seriously but in my mind the conclusion is completely off the mark. I've been using openSUSE 13.1 for almost a year and besides some minor bugs after the installation (KDE crashed but didn't anymore after applying the updates) it's been working exceptionally well. Maybe I had to add a few missing codecs as well but who cares. Compared to Windows it's like a dream.

    Here's my opinion on 13.2:

    I did two installs of openSUSE 13.2. One has been the upgrade version via the net and the other has been a new installation on a new SSD. My first impression of 13.2 (upgrade) has been good as well but I noticed some annoying side effects whose source I couldn't pinpoint yet. CPU usage seems to be rising when I do nothing. That is very strange because the opposite should be the case. My laptop fan is blowing stronger while the computer should be saving energy.

    The repositories have been working in 13.2 and I don't know how it's been with 13.1 because I haven't been an early bird installer. With 13.2 I am having trouble with the printer. It's been working without problems with the previous version but now there's problems getting my printer to do the job. Maybe I only have to reinstall the drivers...didn't have the time yet. There seems to be a problem with SD cards formatted in exfat. They are not recognized.


    The 2nd installation has been from a live USB stick. I didn't have any problems. It's never been easier with SUSE Studio Image writer, just drag and drop. I did use the suggested BTRFS. I did not experience the same problems with CPU usage and the annoying noise of my CPU fan. When my system is idle it is dozing without a sound. I still don't know everything about the advantages (?) of BTRFS and other changes from the previous version. But hey, it's been only 2 weeks since the release.

    What I do know is that I am glad that I installed openSUSE 13.1 despite Mrk's review. ;) In my opinion 13.1 wasn't bad at all – on the contrary! So, for me 13.2 is not the quantum leap or resurrection of a dead distro (WTFo_O) like Mrk's review wants you to believe.

    It is faster than the previous version and almost all the basics are working out of the box. Those who are afraid of installing missing codecs (yes, you do have to install codecs for vlc player in 13.2 as well) shouldn't be using a computer in the first place.

    To cut a long story short, there have been and there will always be bugs, little bumps in the road you have to deal with and some adjustments you have to do when installing a new system. Neither do I see the need to depreciate 13.1 nor do I see the need to hype 13.2.

    13.1 has been running „incredibly smooth“ for me as well and I am sure that the few problems I am having with 13.2 will be solved in the near future.

    @wat0114

    Finally, I did a clean install as well and I think it may be the best solution after all. I did it because I still have to apply the Linux fix for the Samsung 840 evo SSD. I also have the feeling that a clean system will be better in the long run. I did use a 840 pro for the clean install.

    I don't think there is an immediate need to upgrade, especially since you are very happy with 13.1.
     
  24. wat0114

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    Thank you for sharing your experience with 13.2, Balthazar :) I think I will stick with 13.1 after all, since I see no compelling reason yet to upgrade.
     
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