Norman Security Suite

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  1. Bunkhouse Buck

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    I have not but Namor posted screenshots of it HERE.
    Perhaps Namor will see this thread and answer for you or you could PM him.(or her)
     
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    Just finished reading about it.
    What's interesting is that it comes with its own sandbox.
    Never seen that in a suite before.
     
  4. Bunkhouse Buck

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    Yes I noticed that feature and it looks interesting.
     
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    I'be been testing the trial for a few weeks now, and I'm really liking it. Very light on resources - much lighter than version 5.90. The interface or GUI are a lot better than version 5.x/90. Easy to navigate.

    I don't know how version 7's detection rate is compared to older version, but I guess they will be better, since Norman is using a new technology. We will find out in Av-Comparatives February test in a month or so.

    It's absolutly worth a try.
     
  6. Bunkhouse Buck

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    Thank you for the info. I will give it a try. Have you tried the Avira Suite and if so, which is lighter on your machine? The lightest I have used is Avira followed by AVG and Dr. Web. I like to run as light as possible.
     
  7. Jadda

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    I have had Avira on my computer, but I haven't compared it to Norman Security Suite. I didn't have any slowdowns with Avira, nor with Norman. So I wont take a guess in what runs lightest. So it probably run as light as any other antivirus software.

    It would be great to hear what other people think to! So if someone else have tested it, leave a report.

    Edit: The sandbox technology is also impressive. Interesting technology I must say.
     
  8. Kees1958

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    Hi,

    With an application like norman containing a sandbox as illustrated in this movie http://download.norman.no/resellers/movies/Norman_sandbox_the_movie.wmv it always surprises me why Norman comes out so bad in the retro tests of AV comparatives. A subset VM working as a sandbox is the ultimate of active heuristics.

    Let's wait till next AV tests

    Regards K
     
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    How exactly does the sandbox work?Is it on demand like adding a file and see what it does(if so i don't think is very useful as you can do this online also),or it also offers realtime protection(like force fileld,sandboxie)??
     
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    It is part of the scan engine. Part of heuristics.
     
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    I installed it yesterday and the Security Suite takes up a good deal of memory. My assumption is that memory is reserved for virtual execution of files and they are "tested" on an "as needed" basis.
     
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    - VM/sandbox aware malware.
    - Poor heuristic rules.
    - Lack of signatures (sic).
    OTOH, Norman heuristics are a little better than what it's seen on tests (IMO)
     
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    So even a little better heuristic performance than the tests indicate Norman is still probably worse than Nod32 or Avira?
     
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    I think so.
    ESET's heuristics (specially detection of variants) are superb, however the lack of signatures makes them less effective against unknown malware. Avira is a beast against 0-day malware with its Kaspersky-like signature pumping, packer-based detection and somewhat agressive heuristics. I wonder how much they can improve with the release of their emulator/dynamic heuristics and new generic signatures.
     
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    I have been using this recently and i have got to say it is an excellent suite. Does what is says on the tin with no frills - AV/Firewall. Parentel control is included but disabled by default.

    It runs very smoothly and is very light. I would swear my system is more responsive with this installed than EAV/Avira.

    I like the sandbox concept. Theoretically it should develop virus cures quicker the premise being it watches for virus like activity in the sand box lets any virus continue what it wants to do and watches/monitors the effect - sends everything back to Norman. I like this approach..

    Seems to be doing very well in the latest shadowserver results also....
     
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    Yes, it has been doing very well in the daily, weekly, and monthly ShadowServer results. May be time to give it another try.
     
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    Don't know how it is in these days but I remember Norman being heavy, has many processes and it seems to be forgotten when talking about AV's. If someone buys a Fujitsu computer or other that comes with Norman, I have always recommended to uninstall it and look for optional security programs. Perhaps I need to take a look at it again. :)
     
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    Actually, only a very small percentage of malware are vm aware according ot shadowserver.

    http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Stats.SandboxCharts

    Out of 350 000 malware analyzed, only 8 did vmware checks.

    But yes they are doing well at shadowserver. It has improved a fair bit from its 'mid tier' position in the av-comparatives tests last year.
     
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    Ah so: the flavor of the day at Wilders is Norman -- poor detection, grossly over-priced, & very heavy on system resources.

    Where "A=Norman AV and B= just about any another AV" then A<B.

    But we're all bored with talking about effective AVs, so let's all give a loud cheer for Norman. :cautious:
     
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    Have you tried it recently?
     
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    I'd say that their Sandbox is good :)
     
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    disagree completely, try it you might be surprised..
     
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    I did. Fortunately I made a system drive image first.
     
  24. Kielty

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    and what leads you to make such a sweeping statement? I have tried all the major AV's tested and Norman is no worse than any of them. In fact it runs very light and smoothly with very little FP's.

    The suite is not bloated with 'nice to have' features and is unobtrusive.

    The detection results are good on both ShadowServer and AV comparatives..

    Can't understand your blinkered view:doubt:
     
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    An unproven firewall plus a second tier AV -- all for $60. Such a deal. Such a deal. :cautious: Be my guest.
     
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