Non-Scientific Antivirus Website Evaluation.

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Mayahana, Mar 31, 2015.

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  1. Mayahana

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    What I did was install uBLOCK on a fresh test machine, and checked off a few extras (Fanboys Tracker, Dan Pollack, MVPS, Malware Domains, Spam404, etc) Then I went to the website of every AV/Anti-Malware company I could think of to see just how many trackers, ads, trash, and backend telemetry farming they are doing on their website. My thought was, do we really trust an AV company dumping 'many' trackers on their website?

    The results, from best to worst - lower number is better. Your numbers may vary, this is with just uBlock counter with a few extra databases enabled.

    VBA32 0
    Zillya! 0
    Trustport 1
    eSCAN 1
    Zemana 1
    HitmanPro 1
    WinPatrol 1
    HerdProtect 1
    GData 2
    AppGuard 2
    Vipre 2
    AhnLab 2
    AVG 2
    FProt 2
    Emsisoft 3
    Dr. Web 3
    Forticlient 3
    Qihoo 360 3
    Quickheal 3
    K7 3
    Norton 4
    Eset 4
    MalwareBytes 4
    Total Defense 4
    Comodo 4
    ClamWin 4
    Bullguard 4
    Avast 5
    Immunet 6
    Avira 6
    Panda 6
    Lavasoft 9
    Zone Alarm 10
    F-Secure 10
    Webroot 11
    Bit Defender 13
    Trend Micro 13
    Kaspersky 14
    McAfee 14
     
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  2. Mayahana

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    Checked UTM/NGFW Firms;

    ZyXEL 1
    Pfsense 1
    Cyberoam 2
    ClearOS 2
    Endian 4
    Juniper 4
    Untangle 5
    Sonicwall 5
    Sophos 6
    ASUS AiProtection 6
    Cisco UTM 6
    Fireeye 6
    Fortinet 10
    Paloalto 11
     
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  3. Mortal Raptor

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    Wow! Great job man! thank for all your efforts! Shocked at Kaspersky's results
     
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    I knew it.

    Zillya! wins!

    (Please include the ! as it is part of the official name).

    Thanks Mayahana for your time in running that.

    Very interesting.


    If you have the same set-up still going... it would be interesting to know how Emsisoft does.

    They represent themselves as 'good-guys' in the game, and I tend to believe them.

    DQ did better than I would guess. Kool-Aid not included.
     
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  5. Mayahana

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    Herdprotect 1, WinPatrol 1, AppGuard 2, Emsisoft 3, ClamWin 4, Immunet 6, Webroot 11.. Added them to the list.
     
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    Wow, webroot trying so hard to track their visitors and infect them with their Kool Aid :d
     
  7. roger_m

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    I don't know if it is a good or bad thing, but, I've used all of those products except for AppGuard, and there are only three others in the list that I haven't used in the last 12 months (not to mention the many other antiviruses I've used in the last year).

    How about adding Baidu to the list?
     
  8. anon

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    Correct. So, don't count on it. With another browser/tpl you will get totally different results......
    i.e. =
    Windows 8.1U3 & IE-11 with the following TPL:
    EasyList Standard / EasyPrivacy / Stop Google Tracking
    http://www.iegallery.com/en-us/trackingprotectionlists
    Malware Domains
    http://jansal.net/TPL.shtml
    !E11 Tracking Protection
    http://www.wikihow.com/Enable-Tracking-Protection-in-Internet-Explorer
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    VBA32 0 / 0
    Zillya! 0 / 3
    Trustport 1 / 1
    eSCAN 1 / 8
    Zemana 1 / 2
    HitmanPro 1 / 2
    WinPatrol 1 / 5
    HerdProtect 1 / 6
    GData 2 / 4
    AppGuard 2 / 10
    Vipre 2 / 6
    AhnLab 2 / 1
    AVG 2 / 8
    FProt 2 / 3
    Emsisoft 3 / 4
    Dr. Web 3 / 4
    Forticlient 3 / 7
    Qihoo 360 3 / 1
    Quickheal 3 / 2
    K7 3 / 5
    Norton 4 / 3
    Eset 4 / 4
    MalwareBytes 4 / 7
    Total Defense 4 / 13
    Comodo 4 / 14
    ClamWin 4 / 9
    Bullguard 4 / 6
    Avast 5 / 8
    Immunet 6 / 8
    Avira 6 / 10
    Panda 6 / 2
    Lavasoft 9 / 8
    Zone Alarm 10 / 15
    F-Secure 10 / 4
    Webroot 11 / 18
    Bit Defender 13 / 10
    Trend Micro 13 / 16
    Kaspersky 14 / 13
    McAfee 14 / 4
     
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    Zillya! 0 / 3

    With another browser/tpl you will get totally different results......
     
  10. Mayahana

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    Results may vary, which is why I went with the following procedures;

    1) Disabled any UTM/Gateway Adblocking.
    2) Disabled any system level adblocking. (Admuncher, Adguard, Adfender, whatever)
    3) Clean browser on DMZ (Chrome, Red Zone)
    4) uBlock Default, then added a few very popular, and well respected lists. (MVPS, Dan Pollack, Fanbody Enhanced Tracking, Malware Domains, Spam404)

    Results may vary, which is why I tried to standardize it with those settings, and respected databases. But as you see, in your case, some products had even MORE trackers, some had less. In order to remove any variances we'd need to mirror our databases/setup. However the analysis is still valid based on the parameters I used to establish the list. Also different adblockers could things using different methods, so your method may count one-tracker as 2-3 objects because of the way it parses them, while uBlock may recognize it as a single entity. End result is similar in many cases, bar a few that swayed dramatically (usually for the worse). But I am inclined to think your method is simply counting the same stuff more than once, remember uBlock in some cases blocks the root domain itself, not each item.

    Not here to argue method, I posted my method. Just pointing out where each company seems to stand on tracking/privacy based on their website. Do they put their money where their mouth is? Should we consider this in choosing products - just another metric? All of those are worthy of discussion I think.
     
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    Could be part of the rollback feature ?:ninja:

    Regards Eck:)
     
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