NOD32, Tested!

Discussion in 'NOD32 version 2 Forum' started by Untouhable, May 3, 2004.

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  1. Untouhable

    Untouhable Registered Member

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    Well, i just installed the trial version of NOD32 and ran some tests..

    The first test was from http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm
    NOD32 detected the first file (the .com one) the moment my browser (opera webbrowser) started the download. Great one

    The .zip files (both) was detected, but only after a manual scan! still good!

    The second and final test which tests the Anti virus email protection capability at http://www.gfi.com/emailsecuritytest/

    NOD32 only detected 1 out of the many emails i recived, i havent tried any other anti virus programs so i cant compare, but 1 out of 10+ isnt very impressive..

    Any comments?
     
  2. Untouhable

    Untouhable Registered Member

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    think Outlook 2003 blocked the most of the attachments and stuff though, that might have been the cause of the low detection rate!"
     
  3. In spite of the fact thatt I really enjoy reading Rodzilla's exceptional way with words, and as an "internet person" he seems genuinely a nice guy, I can't say I like using NOD32 on a daily basis.. I just wish that Paul Wilders, Rod, and others would just kind of lay off telling us that NOD32 is to be forgiving of everything just because it's always Number 1 at Virus Bulletin.. It really took a lot of guts to write this because now I am going to ask for it LOL.. But I know what you mean about archives and virii in zipped folders. I wrestled with that all weekend. I just can't believe NOD32 can't delete a lousy eicar test virii in a zipped folder... Anti Virus to me mean NO VIRUS... active or inactive.. LOL... Paul isn't "concerned" about a virus in an archive... Well, a lot of others are..

    PS, it's hard to show this but I am writing this with a lot of humor..
     
  4. dos

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    You're right shooter, being a KAV fanboy and constantly using snide comments to put NOD32 and its users/supporters down on its own support forums is "asking for it". :rolleyes:
     
  5. Emil

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    Hi, guys!

    Also I have many tooth against the poorly base of NOD32.
    See my threads
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=27154
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=29098

    All I want to say is that the engine is good (until now). But the rest of services are not agreable (except the updates and GUI). This AV doesn't let me feel comfortable, to know that I have no compatibility trouble. This subject is another one that could be very much improved by the guys from ESET. As you say, it is not enough to win. This is only the idle of the iceberg troubles and work. Unfortunately many peoples sleep on the their "one ear" because of invincibility of NOD's engine in laboratory conditions. If I have installed many applications, NOD fails, especially with IMON registering. The compatibility issues regards especially MS Office products. I received many installation and scanning fails because of this. I agree with your choice (KAV) but this is not a thread for it.
    For the moment I use (yet) the NOD. But I don't sleep good...

    Emil :doubt:
     
  6. norky

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    as stated on the gfi page:

    Only one of those tests involves a virus. The rest test your mail servers or email clients vulnerabilities. So I guess NOD32 catching 1 out of 10 emails was good after all. ;)
     
  7. Paul Wilders

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    Gents,

    Please stay on topic.

    Shooter,

    Feel free to jump in the thread you started yourself over on "Other Antiviruses" in regard to what you posted above. You did start it for good reasons I presume (at least I do believe so, since you've stated over there you would trial NOD32 for the full period - didn't you?).

    regards.

    paul
     
  8. ronjor

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    Most antivirus programs have "glitches". Some worse than others. The programs are after all, a giant filter stuck in your operating system.
    I have never found a trouble free antivirus program. They all have quirks.
    I don't feel the least bit exposed to danger because I use Nod. :)
     
  9. sig

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    This test is not an AV test (except for the one as noted) but a test of email server setups and email programs. It tests for such things as long subject name and .vbs attachment blocking, etc. The company is selling email server protection software for a business setting.

    So as Norky noted, it's not surprising that only one email virus was detected since that was the one test for AV. For the home user, the tests focuses on how your email program and its settings may or may not be vulnerable to various potential exploits. But the tests (like the product) are primarily aimed at the business market with networks where filtering can be set up at the email server to block potentially malicious emails before they have a chance to be downloaded by the email program on an individual's PC. It's a test of the email system, not an AV test.
     
  10. There's no point in trialing the full period..Paul.. It can't clean archives, and I know, I know.. It's not important to you or some others.. I do not put up my comments because I am a "fanboy"., as a matter of fact, I have put truthful and honestly blunt remarks on KAV's forum too, plus DSL Reports.. I truly wish to use NOD32, and part of it is due to the VR awards... but I am having problems with IE browsing.. (it freezes) and I also have problems with typing out a letter (the cursor hesitates...).I unnstall NOD32, my problems go away... I read the post here, and felt I had to comment on why when I downloaded the eicar tests, from eicar.org, why NOD32 could not clean the eicar once or twice compressed. That's being critical? A fanboy? LOL., Gee, I am sorry I don't make excuses for the deficiencies of a product.. I don't have blind faith in anyone, or anything.. neither do I believe in diplomatic.. LOL
     
  11. Stan999

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    You seem to post that browser problem a lot?

    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10119740~mode=flat

    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10090996~mode=flat

    I never had that IE and typing problem on my machine with NOD.

    You may be running another program that causes that IE problem when either KAV or NOD?

    Just a thought.
     
  12. Stan, here's what is going on...

    I uninstalled KAV and put NOD32 in.. Browser problem got MUCH worse... When I uninstalled KAV, I really cleaned it good...
    Then I uninstalled NOD32, browser problem gone....
    Then I uninsatlled ZAPro and Installed KAV.. Browser problem not back
    Then I installed Sygate Free.. No problems..

    Then I uninstalled Sygate, and installed Outpost Trial.. No problems...slowdown during bootup that I had with Kav not as bad as before..

    So, now, do I want to do? Reinstall NOD32 and see if the browser freezes?
     
  13. I honestly think the culprit is Spysweeper...from Webroot...

    If someone use NOD32 and Spysweeper, they could chide in... :doubt:
     
  14. Stan999

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    Well, your post seem to blame NOD for the browser problem which I haven't see anyone else report.

    You posted, "I truly wish to use NOD32, and part of it is due to the VR awards... but I am having problems with IE browsing.. (it freezes) and I also have problems with typing out a letter (the cursor hesitates...).I unnstall NOD32, my problems go away...".

    I think, to be fair, another try with NOD is in order now that you have done the above to try to solve the same issue with KAV and post the results.

    Also a number of folks use ZAPro with KAV and NOD without that problem?
     
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  15. Stan999

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    I use Spysweeper from Webroot. It doesn't cause that problem on my WinXP Pro machine. I also use TPF for my firewall, not ZAPro if that would make any difference compaired to your setup.
     
  16. Paul Wilders

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    Let's not beat around the bush, Shooter. In one thread on this board you state "I'm a fair guy - trailing NOD32 all the way - very shortly after, you post elsewhere you didn't plan to do say from the start. IMHO, this does not fit in with straight shooting at all. Being up front would surely put some more trust in your statements.

    This isn't DSLR or the UK KAV sub forum for starters. All are free to express their opinion as far as I'm concerned - as long as it servers a positive purpose. And that is the crux here: you do post X over here, the opposite elsewhere etc. As far as I'm concerned: it's all up to you - and plain for all to see. Then again: I for one would like to see you to make up your mind and stick to the contents from your posts, over here and elsewhere.

    I'm sure you want to :). Please drop support@eset.com an email with the exact problems you do encounter, and cc me a copy: webmaster_at_wilderssecurity.com. I'm sure this can be figured out.

    First place to comment surely is the thread I've mentioned before, started by your person - coping with one and the same issue(s). It's your thread; you never bothered to jump into that one. Feel free to do so - and be as critical as you wish.

    Many have seen you making excuses elsewhere - in regard to this issue as well. Nothing wrong with that in principal. Nothing wrong in being partly paranoid either. That said: for the benefit of all - and your person first and foremost: stick to one solid statement, all over the web. It will avoid confusion and would do good in regard to the impact from your posts.

    Back on topic as from now on.

    regards.

    paul
     
  17. triwac

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    Hi Shooter,
    please visit www.nod32.com.hr/eicar_test.htm. The screenshots and page are from Croatian version of NOD32 but I'm sure you'll understand what's up. Those are screens from new (release candidat) Imon which (as it's clearly visible there) is fully capable of detecting eicar in once or twice compressed files :) I hope you will be more satisfied with NOD32 in the future :D

    BTW, could you be so kind and explain me why do you so frequently visiting forum of product which you are not using and which you obviously don't like at all? I'm asking it cause it's really strange for me, I never (as a satisfied NOD32 user for more than three years) had need to visit forums of other vendors and spit on their products. If I'm interresting for features of other products, visiting of their web pages is more than enough. I was thinking that this is the forum of "NOD32 users"??!
     
  18. Frequently visit? No, I did not think I "frequently" visit the NOD32 forum.. I sometimes visit the "other antivirus" posts...and I don't "don't like NOD32 at all".. I think it's a fair product that needs some improvement that other AV's have.. BUT! Now, I am going to get the "Virus Bulletin" argument..So, why bother...

    I used to be a NOD32 user who feels that the product was way overrated.. That's all.. But I wouldn't say I "spit" at the product.. Give me a break.. I can say one thing.. the posts are comedy. From now on, I'll just read.. LOL..My mistake..I made a mistake and thought about the possibility of using NOD32 again. I should not have bothered. Sorry..
     
  19. triwac

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    Sorry, I saw 475 posts behind your name... for NOD32 'non-user' quite impressive number :)
     
  20. Emil

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    Ok guys!

    1. Let's turn to our work table. Believe me is a lot of work. This thread have not (yet) a theme. We may find one or... The quality of a product is not only in one direction. The ESET NOD32 just apply this. A good enough engine, a nice GUI, faster scan, little resources, often updates... We all see what is ok and what is need to be improved. BUT when we'll see the results?

    2. I cooperate because I like the product. Paradoxically I don't like its reaction in some diversified environments. It's enough a little change and IMON is dead, for example (real ex, on my skin). Gents, I don't need to spend my time. Nobody could give my time back. So, I am waiting for some release.

    3. ESET methodology of centralizing issue collected through this forum requires from the ESET side something v. important: improvement of product. So, we hard work for making experiments. Personally I am encouraged to make experiments because I know that I could receive prompt answers. This may stand for some real improvements of product and/or its help, BUT not for important issues, as IMON don't scan selfextracts or output e-mails and AMON don't scan at all archived files, even these are recorded/burned to something.
    For important problems, I need important improvements. If somebody doesn't agree this, I'm very curious why?
     
  21. radicalb21

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    Hey guys,
    It's radicalb21. I was just wondering what you thought about the following thread:

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=10337

    Sorry that it is very lengthy. I to beleive that the feature of dealing with compressed files is necessary as you will be able to tell from the above link.
     
  22. Mele20

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    If you are not a fan of KAV maybe you will be "comforted" to know that of all the major av ONLY KAV and NOD32 fail totally on this test. (This test includes eicar). :D ftp://ftp.externet.hu/pub/mirror/sac/avir/avtst30.zip

    NOD32 does "pass" once one downloads Gladiator's file and scans it with adv. heuristics. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10132323~mode=flat#10137447

    I don't know what KAV would do with his file since I don't have it.
     
  23. Why don't you read through all of them and see how many were RECENTLY for NOD32... DUH!
    I said I USED TO BE A NOD32 USER.. DUH!

    "Everyone's a Comedian..." :p
     
  24. Habiru

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    This test is meaningless. Its is not a virus and NOD32 is built to detect viruses, not tests.

    When Nimda was running rampant and I watched the demise of so many ISP's and large companies, the only antivirus I saw that actually prevented a problem was NOD32. Go back and read some of the fall out of this worm.
    I happened to d/l the trail version a couple of days before and although my server was protected, it was the only product that stopped the worm, Norton and McAfee both updated that morning let it through on the other test machines. ( I was doing my CCNA at the time) I purchased the product the same day.

    NOD has not missed yet and although the product may have its faults, one of them is NOT detecting REAL viruses.
     
  25. JimIT

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    The latest "test" that I saw NOD32 pass involved Bagle Z.

    The mail server of a client had "another AV", which I won't reveal, but has a 3-letter name. It blissfully allowed the worm to the user desktops when they popped their mail clients open--whereupon NOD32 hammered it instantly, without an update.

    Saved the network administrator a trip to the office.

    THAT'S a real-world test. One conducted where the rubber meets the road.

    ;)
     
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